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MAY 5, 1945: Japanese balloon bomb kills 6 in Oregon
Posted on 5/7/19 at 5:58 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 5:58 am
I never knew about this. I knew the German U-boats came close to the US, but didn't realize Japan was able to reach the 48 states during ww2.
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1945:: A Japanese balloon bomb kills six people in rural eastern Oregon. They are the only World War II U.S. combat casualties in the 48 states.
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TURNER, ORE. -- More than 42 years after a Japanese balloon bomb killed five children and a pregnant woman on a church picnic in southern Oregon, seven of the Japanese women who made the balloon have sent letters of condolence to families of the victims.
The letters, brought to the United States from Japan by a university professor who spent the war in an internment camp in California, were accompanied by 1,000 folded paper cranes, a Japanese symbol of peace and healing.
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:08 am to eScott
If I remember correctly, several came over but didn’t explode. The Americans were able t collect the sand used in the sand bags and analyze it. From there they determines where they were being launched from and bombed the shite out of it
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:08 am to eScott
Yeah, the were many balloon bombs, but most ended up in the desert or off shore. Wasn't publicized during the war to keep people from panicing.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:08 am to eScott
Why couldn’t OweO’s or DavidTheGnome’s ancestors have found one of those devices?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:16 am to soccerfüt
As if they didn’t suck enough already, maybe their ancestors helped launch the balloons.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:21 am to eScott
I hadn’t a clue about any of this.
Very interesting.
Also, U Boats were 100% in the US via the gulf and Mississippi River.
Very interesting.
Also, U Boats were 100% in the US via the gulf and Mississippi River.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:26 am to BamaCoaster
Yes there were German boats in gulf and even rumored to be in Mississippi rive below New Orleans
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:41 am to eScott
Pretty amazing that only 6 people died from enemy action in the lower 48 in WWII.
The US was extremely fortunate.
Meanwhile, a place like Poland lost around 17% of their population to the war.
The US was extremely fortunate.
Meanwhile, a place like Poland lost around 17% of their population to the war.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 6:42 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:58 am to Higgysmalls
I find it almost shocking that they would be found in the Mississippi. With dredging that goes on now, the depth sits at about 200 feet. Add a little since they probably didn't dredge then, and what the U-boat would have to sit at to stay submerged, that would give about 50-75 feet of play room before they ran aground. Couple the depth with the current, and I don't see that being factual. However, if they did indeed enter the Mississippi, that was one hell of a bridge team to make it in and out unscathed. I whole heartedly believe they would've stayed at the mouth and patrolled in the Gulf, not enter
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:07 am to jeffsdad
"Wasn't publicized during the war to keep people from panicing."
Wasn't publicized to keep the Japanese from knowing how the program was going/ where the bombs were landing.
Wasn't publicized to keep the Japanese from knowing how the program was going/ where the bombs were landing.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:09 am to bubblehead26
My understanding is that with the exception of one off situations where a U-boat captain just wanted to show off, they were patrolling the mouth of the river, not going upstream.
They were in NY harbor, sat off the outer banks and wrecked shop until long range bomber patrols working in collaboration with sub destroyers turned the tide.
They were in NY harbor, sat off the outer banks and wrecked shop until long range bomber patrols working in collaboration with sub destroyers turned the tide.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:17 am to eScott
IIRC, there was at least one balloon bomb that made it as far inland as Michigan, but didn't explode.
Jap submarines shelled Fort Stevens, Oregon and an oil refinery near Santa Barbara, California. A Japanese plane launched from a submarine dropped incendiary bombs in the forests of Oregon in an attempt to start fires.
The Germans were not quite as brazen. Fires from burning vessels attacked by U-boats in the Atlantic and Gulf could be seen from shore at night. One U-boat tried to enter the Mississippi River but failed. Some other U-boats were sunk in the Gulf by patrol aircraft.
Here is a picture of New York City taken in 1942 through the periscope of a German U-boat:
A couple of articles about U-166, sunk in the Gulf off of the coast of Louisiana:
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Wiki article on the shelling of Fort Stevens:
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and the oil refinery in California:
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My grandmother (no pics) grew up near the Oregon coast during World War II. Though the idea of a Japanese invasion of the west coast seems silly now, it didn't seem silly to west coast residents in early 1942. She had five older brothers. They, along with my great-grandfather, had made plans and preparations to head up to the mountains and resist if the Japanese did invade, Wolverines-style. She remembers the blackouts at night, and the air raid drills at school. The brothers all ended up enlisting in various military branches and served overseas during the war.
Jap submarines shelled Fort Stevens, Oregon and an oil refinery near Santa Barbara, California. A Japanese plane launched from a submarine dropped incendiary bombs in the forests of Oregon in an attempt to start fires.
The Germans were not quite as brazen. Fires from burning vessels attacked by U-boats in the Atlantic and Gulf could be seen from shore at night. One U-boat tried to enter the Mississippi River but failed. Some other U-boats were sunk in the Gulf by patrol aircraft.
Here is a picture of New York City taken in 1942 through the periscope of a German U-boat:
A couple of articles about U-166, sunk in the Gulf off of the coast of Louisiana:
Wikipedia
WGNO
Wiki article on the shelling of Fort Stevens:
LINK
and the oil refinery in California:
LINK
My grandmother (no pics) grew up near the Oregon coast during World War II. Though the idea of a Japanese invasion of the west coast seems silly now, it didn't seem silly to west coast residents in early 1942. She had five older brothers. They, along with my great-grandfather, had made plans and preparations to head up to the mountains and resist if the Japanese did invade, Wolverines-style. She remembers the blackouts at night, and the air raid drills at school. The brothers all ended up enlisting in various military branches and served overseas during the war.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:39 am to bubblehead26
quote:Let’s rewind to 1942 and look at the Mississippi River then. The last 30 miles of the River was only 40 feet depth then (from Venice to the Gulf).
I find it almost shocking that they would be found in the Mississippi. With dredging that goes on now, the depth sits at about 200 feet. Add a little since they probably didn't dredge then, and what the U-boat would have to sit at to stay submerged, that would give about 50-75 feet of play room before they ran aground. Couple the depth with the current, and I don't see that being factual.
So a German U-Boat could not have come up the River submerged.
And no U-Boat commander would have risked getting into that kind of a trap when the whole point of his mission could be fulfilled by waiting offshore for the vessels to exit the Mouth of the River and then he could attack them there.
I’ve heard people want to compare a potential run into the Mississippi River with the incursion into Scapa Flow. The U-Boat attack at Scapa Flow was a different story, it was a military target, they also had the ability to get in and get out to deeper water quickly.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:58 am to soccerfüt
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And no U-Boat commander would have risked getting into that kind of a trap when the whole point of his mission could be fulfilled by waiting offshore for the vessels to exit the Mouth of the River and then he could attack them there.
Exactly. Why would a U-boat commander limit his ability to maneuver when he could just sit in wait at the mouth and attack on much more favorable terms.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:14 am to eScott
This is the first I have heard of this story and I am amazed here!
terrible story that is crazy that they released 9k ballons in total
terrible story that is crazy that they released 9k ballons in total
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:33 am to TheFonz
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U-166
A guy I went to LSU with was obsessed with this. He wanted to find it so bad. He never did, obviously, but he did go into underwater salvage/archaeology.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:35 am to LATECHgradLSUfan
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terrible story that is crazy that they released 9k ballons in total
google Operation Cherry Blossom, baw
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:00 pm to LATECHgradLSUfan
What even crazier is that, out of the almost 100k square miles that Oregon consists of, those unlucky souls had to be where a balloon bomb was at the same time.
Even if 9k were released, the odds are still in your favor to not die.
Som' som' destiny som' som' if it's your time to go, it's your time to go.
Even if 9k were released, the odds are still in your favor to not die.
Som' som' destiny som' som' if it's your time to go, it's your time to go.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:53 pm to 777Tiger
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Operation Cherry
Makes you appreciate the atomic bomb
Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:00 pm to eScott
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accompanied by 1,000 folded paper cranes, a Japanese symbol of peace and healing.
Yeah, all the paper cranes in the world won't bring back these folks, nor will it bring back the servicemen killed during the Pearl Harbor sneak attack or subsequently. Paper cranes didn't help the Chinese in Nan King... yeah, Paper Cranes. They're more useful as toilet paper.
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