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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:33 am to Tiger in NY
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:33 am to Tiger in NY
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The plan, like the hundred other times, was to watch and see where they went with the guns. You don't think the FBI suffers from its own hubris regularly?
I guess. I just don't understand how you don't plan for the guns to be used right then and how to stop it? Why bring all the ammunition? Why bring ammunition at all? How did they have time to set up the vantage points and load the guns? How do they kill Paddock and shoot the security guard and then carry out all the planning and attack without the FBI ever stopping them?
If I'm a gun broker I'd think the last fricking thing in the world I'd do is bring all of that ammunition with me. And have it preloaded into the guns. That doesnt make sense just from a business stand point.
I get a call from a terrorist organization that says "Hey, I want 20 guns, extended mags, and all of them preloaded" and my response is" Ok Cool. Ill have that ready for pickup in Vegas overlooking the strip and I'll be by myself with no protection as I just hand you all of that?"
No fricking way.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:34 am to SwampBandit
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That stuff posted on the page before this kind of does make since.
Not really. If it was an arms deal gone bad, why was everything already propped and set-up to murder a lot of people?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:35 am to 13SaintTiger
Find out who brought the hammer to the party and you found the shooter. 
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:35 am to Psychoanalysis
quote:One of the problems with the 'gun deal gone wrong' theory is the presence of the hammer imo. Why would gun dealers/buyers have a hammer in the room? Someone planned to break the glass obviously and if it's an undercover gun buy that wouldn't have been part of the plan.
The FBI just invites ISIS up to an unguarded suite full of guns AND ammunition on the Vegas Strip overlooking a massive concert full of civilians with no backup plan in place? I mean that's scarier to me than a purposefully calculating shadow government.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:35 am to 13SaintTiger
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f it was an arms deal gone bad, why was everything already propped and set-up to murder a lot of people?
exactly my point.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:35 am to Psychoanalysis
I literally just linked a story where they allowed fully locked and loaded terrorsits to actually unload rounds on a crowd in Texas. They are morons.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:36 am to scubafeet
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Mult shooters
This guy uses technology, math and science. Pretty cool stuff!!
I'm in no way saying there wasn't multiple shooters....but there are so many holes in what that guy did there that simply just ignore very, very basic things that I can't take him seriously at all.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:36 am to slapahoe
I also saw a news article from a couple from San Diego who were staying on the 31st floor. They said Paddock had sent security guards to their room a couple of times to complain about music being too loud on the day of shooting. The security guards said their friends needed to leave the room but the couple could stay. They all ended up leaving to go to the concert, but they felt weird about the whole situation.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:36 am to The Mick
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One of the problems with the 'gun deal gone wrong' theory is the presence of the hammer imo. Why would gun dealers/buyers have a hammer in the room?
This is true
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:38 am to Psychoanalysis
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I guess. I just don't understand how you don't plan for the guns to be used right then and how to stop it? Why bring all the ammunition? Why bring ammunition at all? How did they have time to st up the vantage points and load the guns? How do they kill Paddock and shoot the security guard and then carry out all the planning and attack without the FBI ever stopping them?
The morons in the FBI probably thought they had these guys cordoned off in a suite at the end of the hall.
The shooters knew abojt the concert that night, but I wouldnt be surprised if the FBI didnt even realize that when the date and location were set.
Problem I have, is that if Paddock isnt in on it, why did he request that particular suite?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:38 am to Psychoanalysis
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have that ready for pickup in Vegas overlooking the strip and I'll be by myself with no protection as I just hand you all of that?"
Yeah. I won’t meet to sell a cellphone except public place in broad daylight.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:39 am to Mr. Hangover
He said he shoots sometimes. Thats doesnt make him anywhere near an expert.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:40 am to SwampBandit
Why are you banging your head? Is that what you wanted? 
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:40 am to Psychoanalysis
The further this thing goes, the more I believe this shows portrayal of the FBI was accurate.
Also, whose alter are you?
Also, whose alter are you?
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:40 am to Tiger in NY
Aliens is the answer.
Good as any so far
Good as any so far
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:42 am to 13SaintTiger
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Not really. If it was an arms deal gone bad, why was everything already propped and set-up to murder a lot of people?
Thats why an arms dealer (known to the fbi) that went rogue is to me the most logical. They didnt know this was happening, but know of Paddock and have likely worked with him, thus the cover up.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:42 am to Crawdaddy
Wasn't the window in the other room the 2nd window to have been broken and the hammer is in the other room closer to first window? I don't' know if what i'm assuming is right but that's been my thought process this whole time?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:43 am to 13SaintTiger
I find it weird how the picture of the room are kind of spaced out without the whole picture, no pictures of the other room with the busted out glass either unless i just havent seen it...
What if Paddock was setup to act as if he converted to ISLAM and they set the room up for some in states ISIS pricks to come perform a huge massacre and Paddock was supposed to kill them or them get caught and they figured out it was a sting shot the guard and killed Paddock, that would be the 2 shots previous then started shooting and hauled arse....Far fetched i know and highly unlikely but this scenario thing is fun to try to figure out
What if Paddock was setup to act as if he converted to ISLAM and they set the room up for some in states ISIS pricks to come perform a huge massacre and Paddock was supposed to kill them or them get caught and they figured out it was a sting shot the guard and killed Paddock, that would be the 2 shots previous then started shooting and hauled arse....Far fetched i know and highly unlikely but this scenario thing is fun to try to figure out
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:43 am to Tiger in NY
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I literally just linked a story where they allowed fully locked and loaded terrorsits to actually unload rounds on a crowd in Texas.
See this is terrifying to me.
The FBI has full knowledge of active terrorist cells in this country and is continuing to just meet with these people and sell them weapons and allowing them to buy ammo?
Can they really be that completely inept?
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