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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:14 am to Psychoanalysis
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:14 am to Psychoanalysis
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What do you mean? We were never at war with the Mexican Cartels, and as far as I know they arent responsible for multiple terrorist attacks on US soil and dead US soldiers in foreign countries.
What about Noriega? Why was Ollie North tried for treason?
Why did a US Border guard die at the hands of the cartel with guns provided by the US Govt?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:16 am to Mr. Hangover
I would like to invite all to attend lunch with OweO and myself today at high noon at the chimes in Covington. I'll have power point presentation again to go over new material and have an open Q&Q session afterwards. No admins allowed.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:16 am to Psychoanalysis
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Of course you can. The guy wasnt a millionaire real estate speculator. By everything I've read he was a sharholder in a company that funded real estate projects. I havent seen anything saying he was some mogul CEO doing all this work himself. He just invested ina company that invested in property and made some good money doing it.
This is the only article out there that provides some insight into his finances that was researched from available public records, every thing else is just speculation and sensationalism.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:17 am to Mr. Hangover
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I still believe that what we saw is what we’ll get,
You think someone just randomly plans to kill a boat load of civilians with no justification, not even illness? You truely believe that?
My goodness, LVMPD needs to hire you as the sheriff.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:18 am to 13SaintTiger
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Hold on, let me get my 100x magnifying glass to figure out what the second word of the third sentence is.
Press control on the keyboard and either the plus tab or scroll the scroller on your mouse in the forward position
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:19 am to Tiger in NY
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mostly forgotten because the two terrorists were killed by local cops before they managed to murder anyone.
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Security outside was heavy. There were dozens of police, a SWAT team, and snipers.
you see this is what im talking about. In both those situations, the agents acted and the situation was neutralized before it ever really got started.
I get it. The theory is that he was a gunrunner informant, but the FBI just let that shooting go on? They knew how many guns and how much ammo he had and that ISIS was coming to buy and they didnt have a backup plan in place? I refuse to believe they're that stupid and unprepared. Paddock or ISIS snap and get a few rounds out that window and then the FBI shuts it down? I get that. Government gun deal gone wrong, situation taken care of. But those arent the facts here.
They have the intelligence, skill, and authority to run all theses secret gun rings, but not the foresight to plan for something going wrong? I don't believe that.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:20 am to Chad504boy
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lunch with OweO and myself
How does it work? Do y'all just do oral?
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have power point presentation again to go over new material
A title slide isn't much of a presentation
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:20 am to 13SaintTiger
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You think someone just randomly plans to kill a boat load of civilians with no justification, not even illness?
Could have been mentally ill, but that is going to be impossible to prove, so what we know could easily be all there is.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:21 am to Psychoanalysis
But where was Dan B.??
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:22 am to Psychoanalysis
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you see this is what im talking about. In both those situations, the agents acted and the situation was neutralized before it ever really got started.
Yeah, because the terrorists didn't know the FBI was there and fire off 200 rounds at them.
The FBI WAS so negligent as to allow these guys to plan this, get the weapons, and manage to fire off shots before they stopped them.
It was a regular cop that stopped that attack, not the FBI. They got lucky on that one.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:23 am to 13SaintTiger
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You think someone just randomly plans to kill a boat load of civilians with no justification
Actually, yea I do.. in fact, what if I told you it’s happened before???
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:23 am to Tiger in NY
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What about Noriega?
Foreign Soil. And not sure at all how that compares to ISIS.
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Why was Ollie North tried for treason?
what does that have to do with this situation?
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Why did a US Border guard die at the hands of the cartel with guns provided by the US Govt?
Again, not sure how that compares here.
I'm sure the Government does all kinds of shady shite. It's not a secret that we funded and provided a shitload of the arms in the middle east we then ended up fighting against.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:24 am to Psychoanalysis
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I get it. The theory is that he was a gunrunner informant, but the FBI just let that shooting go on? They knew how many guns and how much ammo he had and that ISIS was coming to buy and they didnt have a backup plan in place? I refuse to believe they're that stupid and unprepared. Paddock or ISIS snap and get a few rounds out that window and then the FBI shuts it down? I get that. Government gun deal gone wrong, situation taken care of. But those arent the facts here.
They have the intelligence, skill, and authority to run all theses secret gun rings, but not the foresight to plan for something going wrong? I don't believe that.
The plan, like the hundred other times, was to watch and see where they went with the guns. You don't think the FBI suffers from its own hubris regularly?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:24 am to EA6B
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Could have been mentally ill, but that is going to be impossible to prove,
Just stfu already. Yea, very hard to prove if someone who strategically planned this was mentally ill or not. Guess he stayed in a room all by himself for the past year with no social contact.
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so what we know could easily be all there is.
Wut. You were saying that before we found out the guard was shot 6 minutes prior to paddock shooting the concert goers.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:26 am to Mr. Hangover
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what if I told you it’s happened before???
Please do tell who killed 50+ civilians and injured 400+ without justification or being mentally ill. I'd like to know how strategic their plan was too
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:30 am to Tiger in NY
If those end up being facts and the FBI and our government are simply that obnoxiously negligent and miscalculating, then where do we go from here?
That's a terrifying thought.
The FBI just invites ISIS up to an unguarded suite full of guns AND ammunition on the Vegas Strip overlooking a massive concert full of civilians with no backup plan in place? I mean that's scarier to me than a purposefully calculating shadow government.
That's a terrifying thought.
The FBI just invites ISIS up to an unguarded suite full of guns AND ammunition on the Vegas Strip overlooking a massive concert full of civilians with no backup plan in place? I mean that's scarier to me than a purposefully calculating shadow government.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:31 am to 13SaintTiger
You seem really hostile towards people who don’t share the same opinions as you
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:32 am to Mr. Hangover
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I still believe that what we saw is what we’ll get
honestly, the "old lonely, crazy man" narrative just doesnt add up at this point.
IF that is the story - then why not say so? Its simple enough, case closed, understandable, a lot of people will buy it; we move on.
BUT, theyre not.
so we need to ask ourselves why?
is it safe to assume we have existing evidence which suggests otherwise - that the public could potentially consume?
seems so to me and im not even close to a conspiracy nut
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:32 am to Tiger in NY
That stuff posted on the page before this kind of does make since.
Maybe Paddock was part of the FBI and ISIS shows up figures out it is a sting, shoots the so called hero security guard, takes his radio communication, goes in kills Paddock while others barricade the entrance to the room, rain fire for as long as they can then high tail it out of there, now why there wouldnt be more FBI agents on exits to the hotel I am not sure of, but all in all this scenario could possibly be legit... Kinda weird how we started saying things along these lines then that was posted on the previous page which is right along with what we were discussing. Granted that isnt a trust worthy site
Maybe Paddock was part of the FBI and ISIS shows up figures out it is a sting, shoots the so called hero security guard, takes his radio communication, goes in kills Paddock while others barricade the entrance to the room, rain fire for as long as they can then high tail it out of there, now why there wouldnt be more FBI agents on exits to the hotel I am not sure of, but all in all this scenario could possibly be legit... Kinda weird how we started saying things along these lines then that was posted on the previous page which is right along with what we were discussing. Granted that isnt a trust worthy site
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