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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:47 am to Tiger in NY
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:47 am to Tiger in NY
What do you mean. A security guard with no radio or cell phone. Makes perfect sense to me
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:48 am to STLhog
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He had like 30 properties flipped in less than 5 years?
Did he have that? Or did the larger company that his company invested in do that?
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two planes and a ton of assets.
again, i dont find this to be that odd. Especially because he had a pilot license. The guy had no expenses. No family. No kids. He made some good money im sure as an accountant and invested it well. I don't think it makes him some seedy crazy underground FBI licenced gun smuggler. I know a couple guys in Baton Rouge and New Orleans who arent millionaires that have pilot licenses and own planes and love casinos. They arent gun runners.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:49 am to Psychoanalysis
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I refuse to believe this. I refuse to believe there was a federal presence on that floor fully aware of what he had in that room and they allowed him to just gun into a crowd for 10 minutes.
I know this is stupid, but as cynical as I am, I can't bring myself to accept that there was a federal presence on that floor, with full knowledge of what was going on, and just allowed it to happen.
I get it, but what about using Barry Seal to bring Cocaine and Sandinistas to Arkansas? What about delivering guns via Fast & Furious to Mexican cartels? Our gove't since the 50's has been pulling crazy shite.
50 years ago, this would not have even been a story because we would all blindly believe that our gov't always protects us.
There are audio recordings of LBJ and Kennedy knowing that Vietnam was unwinnable in the early 1960's. They continued to send tens of thousands of Americans to their deaths over there for another 10 years to save political face. I am a cynic as well, trust me.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:49 am to Psychoanalysis
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again, i dont find this to be that odd. Especially because he had a pilot license. The guy had no expenses. No family. No kids. He made some good money im sure as an accountant and invested it well. I don't think it makes him some seedy crazy underground FBI licenced gun smuggler. I know a couple guys in Baton Rouge and New Orleans who arent millionaires that have pilot licenses and own planes and love casinos. They arent gun runners.
What does an accountant make? 65k a year at best?
His work record doesn't add up at all? Has it still even been made clear other than the lockheed piece? He was an APT manager at one point for crying out loud.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:51 am to STLhog
He was boomer who had an opportunity to invest into real estate at a perfect time
i don't see what's so hard to believe about that
i don't see what's so hard to believe about that
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:54 am to Tiger in NY
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I am still having a hard time with Campos being there 6 minutes early and having no radio.
this i 100% agree with. No radio? No cell phone? How does a security guard in a casino get shot when investigating a call and no one notices?
Unless Paddock showed him the camera and told him he's dead if he moves or something? Or he passed out from shock? I don't know.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:56 am to Psychoanalysis
i read where campos did notify the hotel or someone he had been shot, he was up their "helping save/protect" a maintenance worker.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:01 am to rocket31
When this all first came out (within 48 hours), someone claiming to be with the LVPD posted to 4chan telling the story we are all arriving at now. They got there a lot quicker than we did, and supposedly had identified the woman seen with Paddock leading up to the deal to be a middle eastern woman.
Take it for what it's worth, which is probably nothing
Take it for what it's worth, which is probably nothing
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:02 am to Tiger in NY
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but what about using Barry Seal to bring Cocaine and Sandinistas to Arkansas? What about delivering guns via Fast & Furious to Mexican cartels?
I understand gun deals. Neither Barry Seal nor the Mexican Cartel's were actively threatening the USA or carrying out terrorist threats within the USA nor were the deals happening on our soil in highly problematic civilian areas. I have no problem believing government agents sell guns and drugs all over the planet. I do have a problem believing the FBI invited ISIS to a gun deal on the Vegas Strip like that. I mean, if they did. Holy shite. I understand selling guns and shite to foreign nations, in foreign nations. I don't agree with it, but i understand it.
But selling guns to a known terrorist organization within your own country who has pledged to use those guns to kill your own citizens?
And even if you could convince me that the FBI was dealing guns to ISIS in America, I'd have a problem believing they'd be in position and know all about Paddock and his meeting and let a guy( Paddock or the terrorist) unload into a crowd of 20,000 innocent people on the Vegas Strip for a few minutes without ever intervening.
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There are audio recordings of LBJ and Kennedy knowing that Vietnam was unwinnable in the early 1960's. They continued to send tens of thousands of Americans to their deaths over there for another 10 years to save political face
This reminds me of the Joker in the Dark Knight. That's all according to plan. Military conflict and foreign shady deals are according to plan. The government organizing and selling guns to a terrorist organization in the US and then being complicit to those guns slaughtering people? That's unbelievable to me.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:04 am to Tiger in NY
Hold on, let me get my 100x magnifying glass to figure out what the second word of the third sentence is.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:05 am to Tiger in NY
Interesting
But a lot of those 4chan threads get photoshopped after the fact
So I'm not sure of it's legitimacy
But a lot of those 4chan threads get photoshopped after the fact
So I'm not sure of it's legitimacy
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:05 am to 13SaintTiger
Or just right click and hit "view image"
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:08 am to Tiger in NY
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Or just right click and hit "view image"
I'm going to start protesting the flag for those of us who browse the Internet with smart phones
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:08 am to Psychoanalysis
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I understand gun deals. Neither Barry Seal nor the Mexican Cartel's were actively threatening the USA or carrying out terrorist threats within the USA nor were the deals happening on our soil in highly problematic civilian areas
Just curious, how do you know this?Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:10 am to Willie Stroker
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He didn’t say he saw a dead security guard in the hotel. That guy was outside in the crowd when the shooting took place. He also may not have sufficient medical knowledge to declare a visibly injured person as dead.
he also stated that he was staying in room 32134, but wasnt that also a room occupied by paddock through the adjoining room door. all of the simulated layouts have him occupying both rooms and shooting out of windows in both rooms
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:11 am to Psychoanalysis
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But selling guns to a known terrorist organization within your own country who has pledged to use those guns to kill your own citizens?
And even if you could convince me that the FBI was dealing guns to ISIS in America, I'd have a problem believing they'd be in position and know all about Paddock and his meeting and let a guy( Paddock or the terrorist) unload into a crowd of 20,000 innocent people on the Vegas Strip for a few minutes without ever intervening.
They are playing fast and loose with our lives. In this one, they actually let the terrorists open fire:
ISIS attack foiled with FBI handler right there
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The terror attack in Garland, Texas, two years ago was the first claimed by ISIS on U.S. soil. It's mostly forgotten because the two terrorists were killed by local cops before they managed to murder anyone. As Anderson Cooper first reported in March, we were surprised to discover just how close the FBI was to one of the terrorists. Not only had the FBI been monitoring him for years, there was an undercover agent right behind him when the first shots were fired.
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The target of the attack was an event taking place in this conference center on May 3, 2015. A self-described free speech advocate named Pamela Geller was holding a provocative contest, offering a cash-prize for the best drawing of the prophet Muhammad, whose depiction is considered sacrilege by some Muslims. Security outside was heavy. There were dozens of police, a SWAT team, and snipers.
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Bruce Joiner: It's like they pull up, stop, and the doors open.
Anderson Cooper: Do you remember seeing the weapon?
Bruce Joiner: Oh, yeah. Definitely saw their weapon. And that's when I locked onto his face 'cause he's got this smile.
Anderson Cooper: He was literally smiling?
Bruce Joiner: Yeah, like, "I got ya. I got ya."
The two terorrists opened fire with automatic rifles. Joiner dove for cover, but was shot in the leg. Officer Greg Stevens, returned fire with his handgun. Police nearby ran toward the scene.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:11 am to 13SaintTiger
On chrome mobile you can just zoom in with two fingers
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:12 am to Psychoanalysis
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This reminds me of the Joker in the Dark Knight. That's all according to plan. Military conflict and foreign shady deals are according to plan. The government organizing and selling guns to a terrorist organization in the US and then being complicit to those guns slaughtering people? That's unbelievable to me.
Setting those sales up to catch them though. That's what we were doing with the Mexican Cartels wasn't it?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:12 am to The Mick
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Just curious, how do you know this?
What do you mean? We were never at war with the Mexican Cartels, and as far as I know they arent responsible for multiple terrorist attacks on US soil and dead US soldiers in foreign countries.
Can you show me massively successful terrorist attacks and attempts by the Mexican Cartels on US soil?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:13 am to SwampBandit
So wait, has the tide turned on the OT?
Most of y’all are now buying into the conspiracies?
I still believe that what we saw is what we’ll get, and he was a single shooter, but I wouldn’t argue either way...
Most of y’all are now buying into the conspiracies?
I still believe that what we saw is what we’ll get, and he was a single shooter, but I wouldn’t argue either way...
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