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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:14 pm to jamboybarry
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:14 pm to jamboybarry
No proof or link to radicalization of paddock
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:14 pm to SwampBandit
He could have been sitting/kneeling when he fired the coup de gras shot if you follow the "he accidentally shot himself and knew the jig was up" theory
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:15 pm to The Mick
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No proof or link to radicalization of paddock
Thought I covered that with
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-No known ties (yeah I know....that we've been told) to ISIS or other extremist groups
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:15 pm to dfintlyHmmrd
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I wouldn't think they would regardless of the number of shooters, they probably would all be shooting 223/5.56. If the black helicopters were behing this, I'd think they would be smart enough to all shoot the same caliber.
Newsflash: you can match bullets to the exact rifle that fired them
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:17 pm to SwampBandit
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how weird that his leg is sitting under an AR on a bipod...Okay ima set my leg right here take this here .38 and blow my brains out
simple explanation, maybe?
He was firing that AR, no hearing protection at all? He is extremely disoriented with a massive pounding headache and ear splitting hearing problems, pulls the gun on top of himself while he sits down while fumbling for the .38 then kills himself?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:17 pm to The Mick
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No proof or link to radicalization of paddock
Sheriff did slip in a presser and said the work radicalized
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:18 pm to SwampBandit
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Sheriff did slip in a presser and said the work radicalized
Link to quote? Not doubting you, just want to see it
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:20 pm to USEyourCURDS
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Has it been theorized yet that this guy got his initial investment $ from his daddy's "trust fund"?
No, but I think he got into smuggling with his dads contacts. FBI fou d out and started using him instead of arresting him.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:20 pm to jamboybarry
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:26 pm to jamboybarry
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So far, debunking the ISIS setup/gunrunning setup theory we have:
-Hammer found at the scene (presumably brought to breakout the windows that were.........broken out i.e. premeditated
Why couldn't the ISIS guy have brought a hammer? They knew what their plan was all along. After getting foiled in Texas, they are operating on the assumption they are being watched.
Therefore, the plan is to shoot the moment you get the guns, so you put the guns where a lot of people will be.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:29 pm to Psychoanalysis
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where was that in your link?
It was in some othwr article. The operation was to encourage them so the FBI could get more glory for the foiled plot.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:32 pm to Tiger in NY
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The operation was to encourage them so the FBI could get more glory for the foiled plot.
Yeah you'll need to credibly link that statement.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:33 pm to jamboybarry
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Link to quote? Not doubting you, just want to see it
It really was a slip, not really a quote. But said the word radicalized and kind of fumbled around it like he didn't mean to use that word.
Something like "we want to know how he was radicalized, if he was...shite"
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:37 pm to Psychoanalysis
LINK
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An FBI undercover agent encouraged a terrorist to “tear up Texas” before the 2015 Garland, Texas shooting, and was at the crime scene and failed to stop or engage the perpetrators
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:39 pm to Tiger in NY
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Why couldn't the ISIS guy have brought a hammer? They knew what their plan was all along. After getting foiled in Texas, they are operating on the assumption they are being watched.
I guess they could have, but this seems like reaching to fit a narrative when taken with the other discounting facts
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:39 pm to jamboybarry
quote:You did, my bad
Thought I covered that
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:40 pm to Tiger in NY
Here's what went down:
Paddock is an arms dealer. Has been for years He's got contacts in Asia and the ME. He's also in cahoots with the FBI. They use his arms deals to track terror cells and what not.
Paddock, who the terrorist think is radicalized, along with the FBI agree to set up this deal in Vegas so the terrorist can kill a bunch of Americans having a good time. Except the FBI is supposed to foil the plan before anything happens. Everyone looks good. People are pumped that the FBI is protecting them and politicians get to keep on with their war on terror/homeland security stuff. Everyone gets to show all the pictures of the arsenal and loaded weapons and talk about how much safer we are now.
But, the terrorist figure out what's up. Kill Paddock before the FBI can get there, and bust out the windows and shoot, kill and injure a bunch of people. They also fire a couple of hundred rounds down the hall to keep the FBI at bay and shoot Jesus in the leg on the way out.
Also, I'm completely talking out of my arse, but that's how I would've written the movie.
Paddock is an arms dealer. Has been for years He's got contacts in Asia and the ME. He's also in cahoots with the FBI. They use his arms deals to track terror cells and what not.
Paddock, who the terrorist think is radicalized, along with the FBI agree to set up this deal in Vegas so the terrorist can kill a bunch of Americans having a good time. Except the FBI is supposed to foil the plan before anything happens. Everyone looks good. People are pumped that the FBI is protecting them and politicians get to keep on with their war on terror/homeland security stuff. Everyone gets to show all the pictures of the arsenal and loaded weapons and talk about how much safer we are now.
But, the terrorist figure out what's up. Kill Paddock before the FBI can get there, and bust out the windows and shoot, kill and injure a bunch of people. They also fire a couple of hundred rounds down the hall to keep the FBI at bay and shoot Jesus in the leg on the way out.
Also, I'm completely talking out of my arse, but that's how I would've written the movie.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:42 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
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Here's what went down: Paddock is an arms dealer. Has been for years He's got contacts in Asia and the ME. He's also in cahoots with the FBI. They use his arms deals to track terror cells and what not. Paddock, who the terrorist think is radicalized, along with the FBI agree to set up this deal in Vegas so the terrorist can kill a bunch of Americans having a good time. Except the FBI is supposed to foil the plan before anything happens. Everyone looks good. People are pumped that the FBI is protecting them and politicians get to keep on with their war on terror/homeland security stuff. Everyone gets to show all the pictures of the arsenal and loaded weapons and talk about how much safer we are now. But, the terrorist figure out what's up. Kill Paddock before the FBI can get there, and bust out the windows and shoot, kill and injure a bunch of people. They also fire a couple of hundred rounds down the hall to keep the FBI at bay and shoot Jesus in the leg on the way out. Also, I'm completely talking out of my arse, but that's how I would've written the movie.
Biggest question to this theory is why bring the guns loaded to this suspected arms deal?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:43 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
I see most people posting to this thread are not a big fan of Occam's Razor.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:45 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
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Paddock is an arms dealer. Has been for years He's got contacts in Asia and the ME. He's also in cahoots with the FBI. They use his arms deals to track terror cells and what not.
I think he more of a smuggler and launderer. Gun l, gurls, money, gold, etc.
And yes, I think the FBI/CIA has been using him for a while.
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