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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:33 am to
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:33 am to
This is from the LVMPD Twitter page, just so that everyone can refresh their memories on the timeline. Remember, he stopped shooting after 10 minutes (@ 10:15) which is why officers took their time assessing the situation before breaching the room. They've said that in multiple press conferences.

Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3388 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:33 am to
Man that has to be gut wrenching, i cannot begin to imagine the terror that these people went through when they were just trying to enjoy themselves. You absolutely cannot do anything these days without keeping your head on a swivel
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66890 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Zanis, a 66-year-old retired carpenter, made his first cross 20 years ago when his father-in-law was killed.

"That just changed my life," Zanis said. "My first cross was for somebody that I loved. And when I put up these crosses here, I always think of my personal loss here too. Always."

Zanis has become well-known for erecting more than 20,000 of the markers over the past two decades, including after the Columbine and Sandy Hook school shootings and the massacre at an Orlando nightclub.

The crosses, which Zanis said took him two days to cut and paint, feature a red heart.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35538 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:37 am to
Clark County Coroner has released an official list of the deceased.

clarkcountynv.gov
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:43 am to
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Pretty sure it took SWAT almost an hour to get to the room.

An hour to get IN the room. They had eyes on the doors within 10-15 minutes


See timeline above, SWAT was an hour getting to the room.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:50 am to
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Ak's dont shoot 5.56 they shoot 7.62 rounds which is pretty much a .308


Ak's shoot 7.62 x 39.

.308 is comparable to a 7.62 x 51. (Longer casing)

They do make 5.56 AK variants as well as an AK 74 that shoots 5.45 x 39.

But in general, no, a standard AK round is not pretty much a .308. A comparable caliber to the AK round would be a 30-30.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3388 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:52 am to
LINK

Anybody see what ol ISIS came out with? I know it is twitter and anybody could take credit but this is some BS if true
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:53 am to
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See timeline above, SWAT was an hour getting to the room.


OK, not SWAT, but the 8 regular officers were on the 32nd floor with eyes on the doors. He could not have escaped once they found his location (room).

Killing the Security Guard an leaving right then and there was his only chance, and even that wasn't a good one.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12741 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:54 am to
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Clark County Coroner has released an official list of the deceased.
Just a quick scan and I pick up two born in 1996 and two others born in 1997. Every life lost is a tragedy, but barely 21 and gone...so, so sad.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:54 am to
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LINK

Anybody see what ol ISIS came out with? I know it is twitter and anybody could take credit but this is some BS if true


I posted that just a few pages back last night
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3388 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:55 am to
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But in general, no, a standard AK round is not pretty much a .308. A comparable caliber to the AK round would be a 30-30.


Do you think that round would breach a car and set off 50+ pounds of tennerite. You seem to know what you are talking about
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3388 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:56 am to
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I posted that just a few pages back last night

My bad it is hard to keep up with the amount of posting. Once I leave work I dont really get on TD that much. My apologies
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:57 am to
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Why didn't they say, "We found a note with random numbers on it" the first day?


Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:58 am to
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My bad it is hard to keep up with the amount of posting. Once I leave work I dont really get on TD that much. My apologies


No worries, but I love the fact that you dont let TD interfere with your personal life, just stupid work.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
84986 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:59 am to
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OK, not SWAT, but the 8 regular officers were on the 32nd floor with eyes on the doors.

Hell, according to that timeline, the Security guard called in the exact location of the shooter within 13 minutes of when it started. And confirmed he was still there. At that point, I guarantee you that they shut down every single exit from that floor, and had officers guarding every single possible exit. Throughout the entire floor, then again outside of the entire hotel.

There is no chance in hell he escapes at that point. It's over.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:00 am to
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Mr. Hangover


Hammertime is friends with J Edgar Hoover and Eliott Ness, yet doesn't know why the FBI withholds information
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3388 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:03 am to
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No worries, but I love the fact that you dont let TD interfere with your personal life, just stupid work.


Yea man life these days people spend more time on social media than enjoying their families. When i get home i try my best to put my phone down (which is not all the time)and play with my little girl and relax with my wife because like this you never know when it is your time and i dont want to die knowing i spent the night before on my phone instead of showing my wife and kid attention
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:05 am to
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Do you think that round would breach a car and set off 50+ pounds of tennerite.


Possible? Yes.

I just can't picture how it was set up. Was it in the backseat and he was hoping to go through a window and hit it, or was it in the trunk and he was hoping to pierce the metal then hit the tannerite?

Neither scenario makes much sense though at 400+ yards.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66378 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:06 am to
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There would have been a lot higher casualty rate if he had tracer rounds,


pure, baseless speculation
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6024 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:08 am to
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Congrats on the big 4 (Seriously though, I'm assuming this is the girl from EY, the firm is really doing a great thing helping her and her family out through this)


Yep - Tina Frost is her name. I’ve been with EY in the audit practice for 3+ years now and am based in Texas. Tina was out of the San Diego office in the tax practice and was at the concert with other EY employees. The head of North America and South America for EY shared her gofundme page and it’s up above $425K. I’m sure the firm will pick up most the the families miscellaneous expenses in the immediate future as well.

Firm has been lucky so far this summer as none of its employees lost their life in Harvey, Irma, or the earthquake in Mexico.
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