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Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:16 am to Hammertime
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5.56
Didnt he have AK's and.308/7.62 rounds too, Ak's dont shoot 5.56 they shoot 7.62 rounds which is pretty much a .308 which carries way more of a punch and longer range
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yes this is at a close distance but raining down from 32 floors up if the car was in the lower area it is possible
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:16 am to Chad504boy
Don't forget about he rifle he had set up behind the door ready to ambush people coming in
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:17 am to Tiger in NY
quote:Gotcha.
An hour to get IN the room. They had eyes on the doors within 10-15 minutes
So he would have had to be very efficient, but I think he could have pulled it off in less than that amount of time.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:19 am to shel311
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Pretty sure it took SWAT almost an hour to get to the room. There's a heck of a lot that goes into it.
They had ID'd the room much earlier than that. You don't think that SWAT had a perimeter set up around the entire hotel that would allow NO ONE to leave without being vetted, within minutes?
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He could have fired a couple of rounds and been downstairs in less than probably 5 minutes, which IMO no one at ground level likely would have had a clue he was the shooter if he walked right by them.
I've already stated this.
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It was pure chaos, I don't see how you can think that.
You don't think an LEO perimeter was set up immediately? If not, I'll just say I don't think you know how they work.
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Ok wait, maybe we do agree after all
F it, I'm not editing.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:19 am to shel311
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He could have fired a couple of rounds and been downstairs in less than probably 5 minutes
If that was the plan, why bring 14 guns into the room?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:20 am to Tyga Woods
He didn't even shoot along the rounds he had loaded up
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:20 am to SwampBandit
quote:I still havent seen a visual of where the car was parked. I've heard the 2nd broken window away from the concert was so he could shoot at the fuel tanks and his car. Any idea where the car was parked exactly?
Possible, but nobody will ever know because yes it would have been hard to escape but definitely possible and shooting the vehicle from his hotel all depends on the location of his vehicle compared to his nest!
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:21 am to Festus
quote:I do but I question them getting an ID on this guy within just a few minutes.
You don't think an LEO perimeter was set up immediately? If not, I'll just say I don't think you know how they work.
But yea, I think we mostly agree.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:22 am to Tyga Woods
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If that was the plan, why bring 14 guns into the room?
I agree with this, i think the main reason for multiple guns was so when one jammed instead of having to possibly break the gun down to clear it you just throw it to the side and grab another one. But still why bring all those guns and think of them jamming if you just plan on shooting for a couple minutes
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:23 am to The Mick
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I still havent seen a visual of where the car was parked. I've heard the 2nd broken window away from the concert was so he could shoot at the fuel tanks and his car. Any idea where the car was parked exactly?
im still looking for that, i have seen the area layout with the tanks but nothing with where his car was parked
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:24 am to SwampBandit
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14 guns into the room
So wait it is 14 now?
I thought it was 23
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:25 am to Chad504boy
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if he had planned an escape, i mean, all he would have needed would be 2-4 rifles in the room with thousand or so rounds.... and you move quickly to plan b. this dude was stocked in the room... I dunno... sounds like a big ole dummy to me.
Bump firing for any amount of time seems to be a good way to get a rifle to jam. He was probably planning for that, but yeah, 23 guns (12 with bump stocks) is a little excessive.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:25 am to SwampBandit
Drove by this yesterday. Hit me in the feels.
Illinois man drives to Vegas to install 58 crosses
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Also the victims go fund me is almost at $10 million and I don't think that includes all the donations from the casinos.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:27 am to Tiger in NY
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Bump firing for any amount of time seems to be a good way to get a rifle to jam.
The sheriff did say that some of the guns were jammed, but said he didn't know the exact number.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:27 am to SwampBandit
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14 guns into the room
So wait it is 14 now?
I thought it was 23
I don't remember the number. My point was, why bring more than a couple guns if your plan is to bounce after a few minutes and move to phase 2.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:27 am to shel311
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Gotcha.
So he would have had to be very efficient, but I think he could have pulled it off in less than that amount of time.
He would have to be leaving as the security guard came up. Killed him, and then headed down the stairs or elevator.
According to the sherriff though, SWAT was on the 31st floor and only about 60 seconds behind the Security Guard, so I imagine if they'd run into him, he would have been held until cleared (which he obviously never would have been).
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:27 am to LasVegasTiger
quote:Damn. Is that on the MDB lawn?
Drove by this yesterday. Hit me in the feels.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:29 am to The Mick
No, right in front of the Welcome to Las Vegas sign, but probably about a half mile from front of Mandalay Bay.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:30 am to Tyga Woods
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I don't remember the number. My point was, why bring more than a couple guns if your plan is to bounce after a few minutes and move to phase 2.
10/4 i was wondering if that actually came out and the story got twisted.
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