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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:49 am to
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His name is Tony Shaffer. And he's correct.



Just looked up his pic, and pretty sure it was this guy.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am to
pardon my randon question but i know people have mentioned previous hotels/venues booked weeks prior. That is putting all of this pretty close to a 9/11 date. Coincidence at all?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am to
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Which leads me to believe it is linked, and someone told him to firmly walk those statements back as they continue to investigate.


They also said that they haven’t ruled anything out, so like you say, who knows.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:52 am to
Here's the video I was talking about

It's hard to tell for sure what is going on... but it does kinda look like someone assuming a shooting position, raising up a rifle, and firing off some rounds.

Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:53 am to
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They also said that they haven’t ruled anything out


Except ISIS within a couple of hours.

Again, by them releasing that info, reading between the lines, the only way they could clear ISIS that quickly was if they already had a motive nailed down.

I think the motive is being held from the public to let things settle down without some other kook doing something stupid in retaliation.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:54 am to
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i'm guessing from the video camera he had recording him. probably lays out everything we need to know
I thought they said the video cams weren't recording, they were monitoring the outside hallway.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:54 am to
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I did see a video this morning that looked like a guy raising a weapon and firing into the crowd. I'm not really sure what to make of it. It's possible that it could be something else... but it did cause me to watch several times.

I saw it. It's been said that it was LEO/Security walking out when the shooting started. He pulled his gun when he heard the overhead shooting. He was not shooting into the crowd. Tin foilers are using it for conspiracy.
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:55 am to
Dude they didn't "clear" ISIS within a few hours. They said they found no obvious evidence of terrorism at the time. Cmon. Everything is still on the table but it's obvious that there isn't a lot of good evidence for anything yet
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:56 am
Posted by Black
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:55 am to
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I thought they said the video cams weren't recording, they were monitoring the outside hallway.


I hadn't seen that if it was said. I read about the ones that were outside but that he had camera's set up in the suite. I must've missed where they said they weren't recording
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:56 am to
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It's hard to tell for sure what is going on... but it does kinda look like someone assuming a shooting position, raising up a rifle, and firing off some rounds.


Look more closely. He does appear to hold up a gun, but at best it's a handgun. It appears he was attempting to find and incapacitate the shooter, still believing he was on the ground.

quote:

realfarmacy.com


Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:56 am to
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but it does kinda look like someone assuming a shooting position, raising up a rifle, and firing off some rounds.


it does appear.

They say he didn't though.

i don't know why they think they know rounds were not fired.

but we're the idiots for looking at a video and assuming what it pretty fricking clearly looks like he does.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:57 am to
We also "heard" the gf was cleared of everything. Yet they later called her a person of interest and brought her back from another country and continue to question her.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:57 am to
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I thought they said the video cams weren't recording, they were monitoring the outside hallway.


Last night they said that there were 2 cameras outside, one in the peephole, and one (a baby monitor camera) covering the main area of the room. None of them were recording. At least according to what they said.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:57 am to
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I saw it. It's been said that it was LEO/Security walking out when the shooting started. He pulled his gun when he heard the overhead shooting. He was not shooting into the crowd. Tin foilers are using it for conspiracy.



I'm sure it could have been any number of things. A quick shot of something in the corner of the screen that could have any number of explanations... but it causes you to watch it over and over again to figure out wtf was going on.

I'm not convinced there was anyone else shooting except the guy on the 32nd floor. But I can see how some people could spin things like this to fit a certain narrative. You're going to see what you want to see.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:58 am to
I found the video of Tony Shaeffer's interview on Fox. I tried to link it to right before he starts talking about it. If not, go to the 7:35 mark.

LINK
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:58 am to
I wonder if there were different caliber rounds found in the victims and in the ground.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:59 am to
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realfarmacy.com


The video has been making the rounds... that was just the first site I could find doing a search for it. The other version I saw wasn't some d-bag filming his computer screen and moving all over the place.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:59 am to
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I wonder if there were different caliber rounds found in the victims and in the ground.


I think they said the rounds were .223/5.56 and .308, but I could be wrong.
Posted by SwampBandit
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:59 am to
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but we're the idiots for looking at a video and assuming what it pretty fricking clearly looks like he does.


It is just amazing how he crouches down you can see an object swing up between his body and arm then shots are fired and he moves in a sweeping motion.. Look there is no telling what happened but for people to think we are idiots for believing that he is possibly shooting is dumb. Yall can believe there was only one and if others believe there were more so be it.. Doesnt mean anybody is idiots, it is a group of people discussing what possibly could have happened..
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:00 am to
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but we're the idiots for looking at a video and assuming what it pretty fricking clearly looks like he does.


Shut up dumbass. It is not clearly showing him firing.

You are also the stupid mother fricker who still says Will Smith never ran into Cardell Hayes because the video clearly shows Smith didn't hit his vehicle.

You clearly can't see shite.

Go to lunch with Oweo and discuss your stupid shite together.

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