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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30963 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:10 am to
It keeps sounding like this POS lost his mind/possessed/racalzied whatever when he moved to Nevada full time. Seemed like a lifetime loner but definitely went to introverted psycho over the last year or two:

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Paddock erected a solid mesh privacy screen that blocked his neighbors' view of his home. About 20 of them signed a petition, and the homeowner's association ordered him to take it down, neighbors said. The HOA refused to comment. Neighbor Scott Smith said he couldn't understand why anyone would want to obscure a gorgeous view of the town below. "Why would you not have that lot for the view? Obviously, he wanted privacy."

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Don Judy lived next door to Paddock in Florida. He said Paddock's house there was sparsely but tastefully furnished. Paddock rented a car every time he visited, about half a dozen times over two years, Judy and his wife told CNN. Paddock didn't seem as interested in privacy as he'd been in Mesquite; he handed Judy a house key and told him he could borrow a ladder or lawn equipment if he kept an eye on the place. Paddock said he was a high roller and real estate speculator from Las Vegas. "We're up all night because we gamble," Judy remembered him saying. People who thought they knew Paddock said they were completely unaware of his gun collection. Authorities say he purchased 33 of his firearms, most of them rifles, over the past year. Judy called him "a gentle giant" and said he had trouble even picturing him holding a gun.

Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5636 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:11 am to
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Also there is facial recognition software in all of the casinos not to mention there are thousands of cameras everywhere that don’t miss a beat so why are there zero videos to be released yet?


Because:



Just because every Jimmy and Joe with a keyboard now thinks they're Matlock with an internet connection doesn't mean we just have the right to view the shite until they deem it necessary.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:11 am to
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Chad504boy

Beware you will get downvoted and bashed by people for this! I bet this article gets removed before the end of the day and wont be able to be found just like a video i shared of what looked like a shooter on the grounds of the concert. I specifically commented under my post to a buddy of mine and said it is funny how the videos that show things that doesnt fall along the media and everyones story gets deleted and sure enough 3 hours later it could not be found!
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40814 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:13 am to
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well there goes the theory that he was targeting conservatives.



Only if your hoping that's the case because it would look bad for a particular side.

Let's examine the facts rationally.

He books rooms for 3 different events. Only targets one specific event. What did the two non targets have in common? Oh yeah, not conservative.

I would argue that this new info about Chicago only bolsters the theory that he targeted conservatives if he had two chances before but did not act.
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:13 am to
When the kid fired shots on rampart by the bicycle shop last year I was two blocks away outside a bar on burgundy street, the sound echoed of the buildings (not tall building either) and I had no idea where it was coming from... I would have guessed almost exact opposite location. I had 3 tours active duty in war zones and 2 years as a contractor so I have plenty of expeience with recognizing gunfire.... Most people have no idea and that's why you get crazy reports.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:13 am to
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SwampBandit
Keep on Trollin' !!!!!
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178854 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:14 am to
yeah, i don't know much about the area but its certainly interesting and always think the government covers up more than it feels like it needs to be disclosed.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:15 am to
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I would argue that this new info about Chicago only bolsters the theory that he targeted conservatives if he had two chances before but did not act.
That's an unwise assumption really. Maybe his plan was foiled the other times, possibly something as simple as he couldn't break the glass or any million other possibilities.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:15 am to
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Lastly my Uber driver told me his best friend works at Crystals (high end shopping area next to Aria) and that there was definitely a shooter there and that his friend & employees had to lock themselves in the back of the store because there were actual shots being fired in the building.



This sentence perfectly paints the picture of you tin foilers. "my uber driver's best friend said...."

HEY, LET'S ALL BELIEVE THE UBER DRIVER'S SUPPOSED BEST FRIEND THAT SAYS HE WAS NEAR WHERE IT HAPPENED!!! WHY??? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SHEEP!!!!!

:roar:
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:16 am to
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Just because every Jimmy and Joe with a keyboard now thinks they're Matlock with an internet connection doesn't mean we just have the right to view the shite until they deem it necessary.


frick you. I've seen every episode of CSI, and that is IN Las Vegas.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:16 am to
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He books rooms for 3 different events. Only targets one specific event. What did the two non targets have in common? Oh yeah, not conservative.


So he booked the hotels. Realized lefties were there and decided whoopsie I goofed. Finds a conservative event. Then carries on the plan. Ya man Makes perfect sense
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5636 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:16 am to
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I would argue that this new info about Chicago only bolsters the theory that he targeted conservatives if he had two chances before but did not act.


Eh, I agree with the folks earlier in the thread that said he probably didn't want to have to move his stash of weapons cross-country and that he was probably using the festival as a dry-run to observe the scene.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56286 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:17 am to
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Only if your hoping that's the case because it would look bad for a particular side.



Said without a hint of irony.


Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:17 am to
birdie, in general, many studies have been done that show that after a traumatic episode, many times, the eyewitness accounts are all over the place, and can be the least trustworthy evidence to use in any case.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27869 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:19 am to
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I specifically commented under my post to a buddy of mine and said it is funny how the videos that show things that doesnt fall along the media and everyones story gets deleted and sure enough 3 hours later it could not be found!


Be careful "They" are watching you.

Posted by Steauxn
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Dec 2007
19277 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:19 am to
I think the Chicago thing could have derailed due to obstructions.

Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:19 am to
quote:

So he booked the hotels. Realized lefties were there and decided whoopsie I goofed. Finds a conservative event. Then carries on the plan. Ya man Makes perfect sense


Yeah, a lot more likely he either lost his nerve or didn't like the view he ultimately had. He may have also used those as experiments to identify things he hadn't thought of yet (like sending his girlfriend away).

If Chicago was a real target, why didn't his GF fly out of the country (or did she)?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178854 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:


Be careful "They" are watching you.




that's usually how my PM's read.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40814 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:22 am to
quote:

So he booked the hotels. Realized lefties were there and decided whoopsie I goofed. Finds a conservative event. Then carries on the plan. Ya man Makes perfect sense



No, he books the rooms just to attend the event or for a dry run. Who knows? His brother said it was no big deal for him to up and fly anywhere.

I'm speculating these travel plans being released are selectively being cherry picked to water down the targeting of conservatives theory.

Much like the leaks of the pics of the guns and the dead shooter. Why were leaks of the guns put out there, but no leaks about the motive? Seems selective once again.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:23 am to
Good pic

The interesting thing I think is that for whatever reason he was dead set 1. on targeting concerts 2. from a hotel view 3. with multiple guns.

He was relentless in pursuing that plan it appears
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