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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:57 am to
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:57 am to
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The video links in the article are pretty hard to dismiss that there was another shooter.


did this other shooter replace his broken window using gold tinted glass?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39233 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:58 am to
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I think we can officially say that country music had nothing to do with his plans, which frankly removes a lot of political reasoning too. The other festival in Vegas earlier in the month and Lollapalooza are far from 'conservative' politically.

But he didn't shoot on those. For the earlier Vegas one, because he tried but was unable to get an appropriate room (*assuming that is true) that suggests he was ambivalent to the type of crowd. But the lollapalooza event, the info states he had a room but (obviously) didn't shoot it up. Hence, an opportunity but did not take action. We don't know why he didn't and may not ever know. Or even if he went. Two contrasting examples: 1) he was going to shoot it up bc he hates everyone equally but couldn't make it for some reason, or 2) he only booked it for a dry run or something similar and never intended on shooting it up because he was saving that for the country music fans.

IOW, everything's still speculation and we cannot "officially" rule that out yet.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39233 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:00 am to
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Did anybody see the photo of the girl they interviewed and there is 2 more pictures of the same girl on the news dressed different with different names

What's that?
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12921 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:00 am to
You know he did. You know that.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:00 am to
just have people go to r/conspiracy

they can indulge all the crazy Alex Jones BS they want there.

Some fine examples of where some of this info is coming from:

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I was eating at Whole Foods yesterday outside talking about what happened with my friend and a random guy from Canada interrupted our conversation to tell us what he thought. And of course another person saying this is all bullshite.


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Lastly my Uber driver told me his best friend works at Crystals (high end shopping area next to Aria) and that there was definitely a shooter there and that his friend & employees had to lock themselves in the back of the store because there were actual shots being fired in the building.


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When it happened I was across the street not directly in the concert area but a guy running for his life came up to us saying his friend got shot in the face and that there were at least three shooters and they were snipers. He specifically told us that there were two on the roof and and maybe on the ground. (I understand he was in shock and maybe could have made some of this up or thought he saw more than he did but still something to consider)

Soooo, black ops snipers managed to only kill 58 people?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:05 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:01 am to
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did this other shooter replace his broken window using gold tinted glass?


The theory would be that the other shooter was in the room with him and one of them out of each window. I didn’t see the videos facing the hotel so I can’t say if there was only one muzzle blast coming out. I would think if there were two shooters in the room, we would be able to tell from the audio.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:01 am to
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And a youtube video of what it sounds like 300m away. The loud high pitched crack is the supersonic shock wave. The lower volume lower pitch sound is the report from the muzzle blast. The supersonic shock wave is generated by the bullet and travels along the bullet path. People ignorant of the phenomenon might confuse the super sonic shockwave with the report of the muzzle blast. Because the sound generation is traveling along with the path of the bullet, this could confuse someone into thinking that louder crack they hear is the muzzle blast therefore assume the bullet is coming from the direction they hear the sound which is actually where the bullet traveled not the direction it came from.


Pretty good video and point...Sorry for bringing up the conspiracy stuff, I just wanted to see what yall thought which in return was a-hole comebacks but hey thats always the case on TD

All in all though I pray for the families who lost or have injured loved ones and i wish we could rid the evil in this world!
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:03 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:02 am to
Good idea

There are several over there who still think it was all staged,fake blood etc
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:02 am to
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Did they ever say what is in those tanks?? They keep talking about fuel in there, is that true?
Aviation fuel
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23079 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:02 am to
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#BREAKING Las Vegas gunman booked rooms in a Chicago hotel facing Lollapalooza music festival in August usatoday.com (USA TODAY)


well there goes the theory that he was targeting conservatives.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:03 am to
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did this other shooter replace his broken window using gold tinted glass?


No, even better, the idiot in the video is claiming there are a bunch of windows blown out of the Manadalay Bay, yet we have only seen the 2 from Paddock's room in the last 2 days. CNN must be hiding the 4 other broken windows that video claims are there. Silly.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:03 am to
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:04 am to
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There are several over there who still think it was all staged,fake blood etc


Now that i disagree with, the video of the guy on liveleak running around checking on people proves that wrong, nobody can play that out with blood bubbling out of peoples mouths and stuff
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27869 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:04 am to
The foil hat crowd is really stretching it.

Many like spaceman spiff come in with outrageous accusations about what they read or videos that they watched but can't provide links.

Then on the other hand we have landmass who has links to some of the dumbest shite on the internet and believes every word of it.

Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:04 am to
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well there goes the theory that he was targeting conservatives.


That's a pretty broad leap to make.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6131 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:06 am to
He also tried to book a room over looking a music festival that took place earlier this year in Vegas that was just a bunch of college students
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178857 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:07 am to
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Update from someone who lives on the strip in Vegas (self.conspiracy)
submitted 16 hours ago by buttermilklies
You still can’t drive past Mandalay Bay or even get close.
The casinos are now checking bags & some have metal detectors etc.
Every single person I have talked to 100% thinks there was more than one shooter.
When it happened I was across the street not directly in the concert area but a guy running for his life came up to us saying his friend got shot in the face and that there were at least three shooters and they were snipers. He specifically told us that there were two on the roof and and maybe on the ground. (I understand he was in shock and maybe could have made some of this up or thought he saw more than he did but still something to consider)
Trump is here today
Also there is facial recognition software in all of the casinos not to mention there are thousands of cameras everywhere that don’t miss a beat so why are there zero videos to be released yet? Every single local is convinced that there was more than one shooter. I went to the doctor today and the doctor and two nurses even brought it up and said they don’t believe what we’re being told. I have never seen so many people go against a story the way this has happened. Especially people you would never think would question something like this and they are .....?
I was eating at Whole Foods yesterday outside talking about what happened with my friend and a random guy from Canada interrupted our conversation to tell us what he thought. And of course another person saying this is all bullshite.
Lastly my Uber driver told me his best friend works at Crystals (high end shopping area next to Aria) and that there was definitely a shooter there and that his friend & employees had to lock themselves in the back of the store because there were actual shots being fired in the building.
Oh yeah the side of Mandalay Bay that faces the highway that you can see has random windows missing which I’m sure has nothing to do with the shooting but thought I would add that if that helps anyone
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Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:08 am to
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The foil hat crowd is really stretching it.


And I thought I was on the fringe suggesting a possible connection to ISIS in the Philippines.

Now it is a false flag/not false flag event, perpetrated by the US Govt to increase their monitoring of the people. What is this, a Mr. Robot episode?
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:09 am to
Fred, one peculiar thing I notice about the foil hat crew. They always believe that they are the smartest people in the room, and everyone else is not blessed with their intelligence. And they convince themselves that everyone else that don't believe their theories are sheep. Yet, they themselves base their opinions on what some other tin foil hat sheep is feeding them.

That's why God gave us downvotes.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27869 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:09 am to
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Lastly my Uber driver told me his best friend works at Crystals (high end shopping area next to Aria) and that there was definitely a shooter there and that his friend & employees had to lock themselves in the back of the store because there were actual shots being fired in the building.


Did he see Ferris at 31 flavors pass out too?
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