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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:01 pm to
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another interesting anecdote is the "October 2016 mention" from teh sheriff that kinda set this whole thing off, that i do not see the news focusing on.


What is the October 2016 mention that the Sheriff said? Has anyone seen the NBC News article that says police are looking at footage of Paddock with an unidientified woman in the days before the shooting?

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Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12685 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:01 pm to
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some event in 2016 set him off or he met someone traveling


It's possible that even without it being overtly political that the insane political powder keg our country has been for a year tweaked him out. The tone out there has gotten pretty extreme on all sides and has also gotten more extreme even in the center.

Or any number of possible things in his life (illness, a death, learned something about his family, lost money, and on and on and on). This of course could take a minute to piece together as you rule out extremist activities and put together the timeline to find the root cause.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8725 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:02 pm to
After seeing the floor plan of the suite, on the last page or so, I'm guessing Paddock's escape route would have been the stairs. Had this security guard never shown up he could have fired off more rounds then sprinted down the stairs.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42269 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:02 pm to
They're saying he targeted some fuel tanks. I wonder if he planted some tannerite on them?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68376 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:02 pm to
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Regardless, conversion to full auto is not a big challenge to someone willing to commit a felony in doing so.


There was a guy on CNN yesterday detailing how to do it. Something about shaving down a certain piece. Can’t remember the name of it.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:02 pm to
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Lack of arrests would hint towards it, yes. The girlfriend and brother are also saying they weren't privy to ill behavior


to plan something, alone and without telling anyone, for 11-12 months would be absolutely incredible.

i suppose it is possible, though

assuming he had assistance - was it a politically motivated? isis, russia? this is all very fascinating to me
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:03 pm to
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Had this security guard never shown up he could have fired off more rounds then sprinted down the stairs.


Lol at some old arse 64 year old man sprinting down 32 flights of stairs
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12077 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:03 pm to
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Any idea if someone visited the room other than Paddock?


Just room service as far as I know. And all of the security footage they've found him on that I know about he was alone as well.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68376 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:04 pm to
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assuming he had assistance - was it a politically motivated? isis, russia? this is all very fascinating to me


The mystery of it all and the psychology behind it is fascinating to me as well. I mean his family said he wasn’t political or religious or violent, but it didn’t sound like they saw each other often.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:04 pm to
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Shitty getaway play, don't you think? Nothing in that statement smelt of "playing dumb". She didn't even have to give a statement




If that was the plan, they probably thought she could melt back into Filipino society until the CIA and State dept called Dutarte
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

assuming he had assistance - was it a politically motivated? isis, russia? this is all very fascinating to me




I don't think it's Muslim affiliated because we'd know by now, they like the credit and to be all "in your face". If assisted politically, it seems more sophisticated
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:06 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

What is the October 2016 mention that the Sheriff said?


i only watched it once, but i believe the sheriff made a statement that october 2016 was when he first started acquiring the massive amount of weapons, ammo, etc
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

NBC News article that says police are looking at footage of Paddock with an unidientified woman in the days before the shooting?


probably a hooker/escort. Fk it right? Going out with some sex.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8303 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:06 pm to
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Sheriff DID say that 200 shots were thrown down the hall and that it is amazing that the guard was not mortally wounded.



Then the guard wouldn't have given the police the universal keycard. Nor would he have stayed to help them check the other rooms. He would have used the injury as an excuse to leave. Instead, he had to be ordered by an officer to go receive medical attention.

The guy is a mother fricking hero.
Posted by matsuflex
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
1609 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:06 pm to
The only way I can think of to escape would be to book the room below his (in a different name). Cut a hole to drop through under the bed maybe. Change appearance and make sure you get out before they realize shooters room is empty
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68376 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Lol at some old arse 64 year old man sprinting down 32 flights of stairs


Down stairs ain’t that difficult, even for a 64 year old. They said they have evidence that he planned an escape, but couldn’t reveal what that was, also interesting.

Maybe travel tickets, or a rented plane or passport?
Posted by autauga
Member since Sep 2015
3684 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:07 pm to
Fox News just said he took shots at fuel trucks at the airport. Would bullets set off aviation fuel?
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8725 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:07 pm to
Or hit the staircase and blend in with everyone else evacuating the hotel

Stairwell was to the right of his door
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:08 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:08 pm to
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Would bullets set off aviation fuel?


Fuel. Air. Spark. Boom. I'd say it's possible for Avgas.

Prolly not for Jet A.

That is a WAG.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147075 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Fox News just said he took shots at fuel trucks at the airport. Would bullets set off aviation fuel?

depends on how strong the linings of the truck is

and if the bullet can create enough of a spark to light the feul
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