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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:53 pm to
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If he planned this for that long, something didn't just snap in him


yep. some event in 2016 set him off or he met someone traveling

This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:53 pm to
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Doesn't matter but interesting to see if the room was comp.


It was.



Assuming you're info is solid, thank you.

Any idea if someone visited the room other than Paddock?
Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Nov 2012
5550 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:54 pm to
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What if the guard was the accomplice?


Actually didn't occur to me until you said it.

Sheriff DID say that 200 shots were thrown down the hall and that it is amazing that the guard was not mortally wounded.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12685 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:55 pm to
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Still doesn't answer the question as to why a quiet, upstanding citizen would go on a rampage like this.




Any reason to say he's all that upstanding? Is it just the money plus lack of arrest?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:55 pm to
october, the sheriff implied, seems to be the key month

so 11-12 months of planning
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:56 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68376 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:55 pm to
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So why do people, especially the tinfoil hat crowd, keep hammering on this?


The sheriff was the one who harped on this at the press conference and insinuated that he had an accomplice and help to do everything.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:55 pm to
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yep. some event in 2016 set him off or he met someone traveling


At first I thought this could've been a set-up, now I think he could've been put up to it.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
17143 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:57 pm to
I think people who have never seen these hotels just don't realize the size of these things. I mean the Venetian has indoor gondola rides. It's just unbelievable really. No one is watching you bringing up suitcases






This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:58 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Any reason to say he's all that upstanding? Is it just the money plus lack of arrest?


Lack of arrests would hint towards it, yes. The girlfriend and brother are also saying they weren't privy to ill behavior
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68376 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:57 pm to
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At first I thought this could've been a set-up, now I think he could've been put up to it.


Could be misdirection, but sheriff and FBI both claim there is nothing to lead them to believe this was terrorism.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13046 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:57 pm to
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no one ITT is, or at least hasnt been for awhile


Did I say anyone in this thread was?

No.

But there are things going around on facebook suggesting that there is no way he got all of that up to the room by himself, that it would have been suspicious or too difficult because he's 64.

It's as if these people have never stayed in a hotel, or maybe they have and have been pestered about what's in their luggage.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:58 pm to
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She cant be believed or not believed though. Could be the truth, could be what anyone would plan to say.



I guess you're going to ride or die with the Phllipines/ISIS theory.

On a side note, looking up all these shootings, guns, etc. makes me wonder if the CIA just gives us all a pass for a week or so after an event like this.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:58 pm to
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But there are things going around on facebook suggesting that there is no way he got all of that up to the room by himself, that it would have been suspicious or too difficult because he's 64.


thats neat. thanks for hijacking this thread about the suitcases.

that issue was resolved long ago
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:58 pm to
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At first I thought this could've been a set-up, now I think he could've been put up to it.


Don't think so, but cant say you're wrong.

They got his girlfriend to fly back immediately from another country. Don't you think if there were other people they wouldn't have already found them. She didn't have leads. Not saying there aren't, but i just don't see it.
Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Nov 2012
5550 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:58 pm to
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It was reported the room was full of smoke from the plethora of rounds was it not?

Maybe he cracked the door open to try and ventilate the room. Then he forgot it was cracked open till the security guard showed up then closed it before SWAT had to breach it.



No. He had TWO big fricking cross-wind windows open. No need for more ventilation.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8209 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:58 pm to
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All my AR's have M16 bolt carriers. They are sold on every gun site.


I stand corrected, perhaps it's the fire control group or lower parts kits that are class 3 items.

Regardless, conversion to full auto is not a big challenge to someone willing to commit a felony in doing so.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13046 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:59 pm to
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hijacking


Way to be overly dramatic. You're the only idiot even responding to me, but yeah, I sure hijacked this thread.
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13978 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:00 pm to
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But there are things going around on facebook 

Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

Don't think so, but cant say you're wrong.

They got his girlfriend to fly back immediately from another country. Don't you think if there were other people they wouldn't have already found them. She didn't have leads. Not saying there aren't, but i just don't see it.


Quite the contrary. I believe it would take this long to figure out if someone else was involved, not being immediate associates
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:01 pm to
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The sheriff was the one who harped on this at the press conference and insinuated that he had an accomplice and help to do everything.



I felt like he was trying to say this was so big and took so long to plan that someone, somewhere, likely knew something. I'm not sure if he was questioning how the guns got to the room specifically.
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