re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

The issue with the plane I would guess, is that its a one and done thing. There's no second chances, and you much less of a guarantee. It takes a lot more things to go right in order for the carnage to happen.

Its really extremely easy to take 1000 rounds of .223 ammo and a couple of guns (given Paddock took it to the extreme) to a hotel room and shoot at people. With a crowd like that, he picked a scenario that honestly hard to screw up.

We are very very lucky that there are not 100s dead to be honest.

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The problem with using a failed landing crash or the crash posted earlier when he hit the tree, is that the plane would be operating at a much lower rate of speed than that of a plane with intent on destruction or injury. Look at the picture posted above of the large crowd. Take half of that in a smaller space and it's pretty easy to see the other side of your argument.

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Again, I think it's probably possible (at least for deaths) but it could very well be very difficult to execute.

A successful vehicle-borne attack, if that was feasible, is probably a more dangerous scenario IMO.

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I refuse to watch the video, so can anyone tell me how many people he looked at and what number of people were still alive when he checked? Did it look like any may have survived had they gotten help? I'm guessing the video doesn't show anyone else administering aid,

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He goes to probably 5-6 bodies on the ground. I think 2 were still alive. However, 1 was barely alive, shot in the head, gurgling blood from his mouth, barely breathing. He was trying to assess who was alive, and who was dead, and direct EMT. From what I saw, I doubt that anyone that was there injured ended up surviving.

He would walk up, put fingers on their neck to check for pulse, then move on. The scene was basically dead bodies, with a few still alive, and people trying to figure out what to do, and consoling them.

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Here is a video of a Cessna crash landing. Look at how flimsy these planes are. Seriously just a floating coke can.

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Or it could have looked like this:

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Or it could have looked like this:

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That's a twin engined Cessna 310 that weighs twice as much as the planes in question, and holds almost 3 times as much fuel. So no, it couldn't have.

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Other people are tending to victims. Not sure in what capacities though. He found a couple that were deceased or near deceased, and a few that were not as critical

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In respect to the guy on the video, he says "EMT" but then you can hear him talking to people about them being a nurse, fireman, first responder, or whatever. As in, they weren't in uniform.

He seems kinda foolish videoing, but I honestly think he was one of the first people on scene. He was directing other "civilians" that were not called there it sounded like to me. No one on the video was on duty, they were all just victims in the crowd reacting to help people.

I don't have a clue why he moved them so much, but it did seem like he was just trying to figure out who needed help and get it to them as soon as the shooting stopped and before the EMT's arrived by ambulance or fire truck.

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That's a twin engined Cessna 310 that weighs twice as much as the planes in question, and holds almost 3 times as much fuel. So no, it couldn't have.

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So to confirm, the kind of plane he supposedly owned would have no chance at all of an explosion upon impact or skidding along the concrete as it lands upon impact?

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She continued: 'I thought the whole situation was even weirder when two weeks later I then look out of my window again to see Marilou stuffing her car full of all her belongings. 'Over the course of three or four days it was like she was moving her entire life out of the house. She packed so much stuff not only was her car full, but it was also tied to the top of her car.


So Marilou looks like she knew something then or was her leaving the trigger that set him off?

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To me, that reads like a relationship that ended. It would make sense she would go back "home" after ending a relationship as well. If I had to bet, something went sour in their relationship that eventually triggered the shooting spree.

ETA - After learning this was from the Reno house and not his home in Mesquite, I'm not sure how relevant any of it really is.

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It would have, but at half the size and 1/3 the fuel of the plane in the video, it wouldn't have looked anything like that.

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How fast can his plane go and what would it have looked like at that speed?