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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:11 pm to
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So far, the ISIS claim has not held up to scrutiny, raising the question of why the terrorist group would claim responsibility for an attack it didn't commit.



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It can take weeks to get sense of ISIS' involvement, and months for the full picture of what happened to be uncovered by authorities. That work is necessary not just to confirm an ISIS link, but to determine what kind of link it is.

That's why early reporting will say that ISIS "claimed responsibility," but stories published later might note that the group either "carried out" or "inspired" an attack.

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Neither one of us knows for a fact that they're involved. What I am pointing out, is for you to "laugh" that anyone is even considering that ISIS may be involved (after they have publicly claimed it) shows ignorance and the way you try to come off as knowing much more than you do.

Say you don't think it, fine. But the arrogance of you laughing, and then stating that ISIS has a history of false claims of acceptance? That's what I'm trying to reveal.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:12 pm to
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The way the sheriff said things yesterday in his afternoon press conference led me to believe that he knew somethings about motive and possible accomplice(s.



For all we know, the FBI could be executing raids around the country....possibly throughout the world. They aren't going to give us any info about motives or accomplices until they are confident they have everyone involved in custody.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:12 pm to
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OweO
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:14 pm to
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For all we know, the FBI could be executing raids around the country....possibly throughout the world. They aren't going to give us any info about motives or accomplices until they are confident they have everyone involved in custody.


Yeah, the dude was buying guns, ammo, fertilizer, and tannerite like crazy over the last year, so at the least they've been investigating all that.

We have zero idea of how much digital info they've found. I bet it is a ton. Old people seem to think that deleting things actually removes them. We'll see.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:14 pm to
Sorry for asking, but I've been away for a couple of hours.

Have we heard anything new since around 10am? Has there been another briefing?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Why can't it just be something some sick frick decided to do for only reasons he could understand (in his sick mind)?

Why would you be against seeking the truth, instead of just assuming this?
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Like a tornado. All of a sudden they appear, wreck shite up and they are gone.


Before you edit.

You just compared this huge mass murder of 58 people to being like a tornado. Just suddenly appears.

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it's just something that will happen from time to time.


OweO has spoken. Someone call the FBI and tell them to call this stupid investigation off. shite happens, man. Let's move on.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
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The FBI says they are absolutely confident that the planning took over 2 months. So they have that process nailed down pretty good. Now, to just find out Marilou's story of the last 2 months.


Let's assume his goal was to open fire at a group of people and be able to maximize the number of casualties. He had to find a spot and an event that would allow him to shoot into a big crowd. I can't think of another spot on the strip, where he could have targeted an area that had thousands of people in one specific spot. He could have started shooting at people on the strip, but there would be so many places people could get out of the way of the line of fire.

Mandalay Bay is the perfect spot.. Because it has two buildings and all around both hotels there are events that go on. So it wasn't just something he put together.

If he was a "professional gambler" I am sure he was extremely familiar with LV so he probably knew that MB would be the place to pull this off. He then had to find the perfect event. This was something that went on all weekend right? He checked in on Thursday, I would be curious to know how far in advance he booked his hotel. That will probably give the investigators somewhat of an idea as to when he started to plan this.
Posted by Big Worm
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Member since Nov 2007
578 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
Whens the next press conference?
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
183234 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:20 pm to
Leave it to Chris to jack up a thread about the largest mass shooting in history. How long before he tries to make it about him?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Old people seem to think that deleting things actually removes them
It's really not hard to hide your electronic fingerprint once you decide to do something like this. Hell, you can even give them some random shite to chase down. I wouldn't expect a 64 year old to know that though
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10577 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:24 pm to
They’ve already determined he tried to book previously for another venue later this month at a different hotel for a different event but couldn’t get the room he wanted you frick
Posted by TigerFred
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Member since Aug 2003
27879 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:25 pm to
Well considering the week before the Route 91 festival was another event at the same place and multiple vents before and after scheduled that wouldn't be the best place to start for a timeline.

Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:25 pm to
In one post, he's saying it's very simple, just a crazy guy. There is no explanation. People are evil. Why are people reading into this so much, etc. etc.

The very next post, he's building a scenario of planning and motive, and giving the investigators some leads to pursue to determine motive.

This guy...



I truly believe he just posts as quickly as his fingers can type and doesn't even remember that he posted the opposite in his last post.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6024 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:26 pm to
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I can't think of another spot on the strip, where he could have targeted an area that had thousands of people in one specific spot.


He attempted to book the Ogden for the other music festival a few weeks ago but couldn't get the rooms he wanted. 45,000 people per day at that event.

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I would be curious to know how far in advance he booked his hotel.


3 weeks ago.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
86132 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:27 pm to
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Whens the next press conference?



Not sure it's been announced yet Big Worm. If it has, I don't know.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27879 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:32 pm to
They haven't announced one yet.

They have been listing the time of the press conference on the LVMPD twitter page.

Last few days it has been between 4-6 Central time.



Posted by Big Worm
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:34 pm to
Thanks
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:35 pm to
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I truly believe he just posts as quickly as his fingers can type and doesn't even remember that he posted the opposite in his last post.


ya he has a disconnect between his brain and keyboard

what a normal person can say in 3 words, it takes him 4 sentences
Posted by Black
My own little world
Member since Jul 2009
22244 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:36 pm to
Every thread I've read today, he's shite in some way or another
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179339 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Let's assume his goal was to open fire at a group of people and be able to maximize the number of casualties. He had to find a spot and an event that would allow him to shoot into a big crowd. I can't think of another spot on the strip, where he could have targeted an area that had thousands of people in one specific spot. He could have started shooting at people on the strip, but there would be so many places people could get out of the way of the line of fire.

Mandalay Bay is the perfect spot.. Because it has two buildings and all around both hotels there are events that go on. So it wasn't just something he put together.

If he was a "professional gambler" I am sure he was extremely familiar with LV so he probably knew that MB would be the place to pull this off. He then had to find the perfect event. This was something that went on all weekend right? He checked in on Thursday, I would be curious to know how far in advance he booked his hotel. That will probably give the investigators somewhat of an idea as to when he started to plan this.


Did you put all these thoughts together yourself or did you just type whatever fricking obvious thoughts came to mind?
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