re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

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Is she?

What has she done/said that leads people to believe she's a radical?

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No and nothing. That would have to be proven true for any of this to stay together, unless there is some other connection she has (maybe family) if she is not radical. It gets pretty unbelievable at that point.

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No and nothing. That would have to be proven true for any of this to stay together, unless there is some other connection she has (maybe family) if she is not radical. It gets pretty unbelievable at that point.

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Oh, I thought you said you believed in that theory.

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The OweO version:

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The ISIS thing makes me laugh. I can be completely wrong, but I would be the farm that ISIS had absolutely nothing to do with this. ISIS is as weak as they have ever been so they look for anything to take credit for to show they are still a threat.


And then, fact.... LINK

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"We have not been able to find a real lie from ISIS," said Katz, who follows the group's social media obsessively with a critical eye. "Despite the fact that they are a terrorist organization, they want to provide their followers and supporters with authentic information."

Joscelyn said he can't think of an example of an outright false claim by ISIS in the U.S. and western Europe. There are plenty of exaggerations — on death tolls, for instance — and the statements shouldn't be assumed to be true. (For instance, the ISIS claim for the attack on a concert in Manchester didn't describe a suicide bomber, and had slightly inflated numbers of the dead and wounded.)

The Shaky State Of The Islamic State
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But in the West, "when ISIS claims something ... usually there's something there," Joscelyn said.


Hmmmmmm....wonder which one I should trust????

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And I provide you with this..

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The FBI said Monday there is "no connection" between international terrorist groups and the gunman who killed 59 people and injured at least 527 more in Las Vegas Sunday night, pushing back on the Islamic State's claim that it had directed the deadly attack.

The Islamic State's unsubstantiated claim, released on Monday, didn't mention gunman Stephen Paddock by name, and came amid rampant speculation about the attacker's identity and motives.

So far, the ISIS claim has not held up to scrutiny, raising the question of why the terrorist group would claim responsibility for an attack it didn't commit.

For one, such a claim guarantees relevance for ISIS by keeping it in the news, terrorism expert Bruce Hoffman told Business Insider.

"There is a long history of terrorists trying to elbow themselves into the limelight and milk some horrible tragedy to claim some credit for themselves," said Hoffman, who serves as Georgetown University's director of security studies.

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Business Insider

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He just seems like a gun collector that snapped one day for reasons unknown right now.

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That whole gun collector thing sounds fishy to me. He got like 35 of the 42 guns just in the last year.

A gun collector goes 60 years with ~7 guns and then buys 30 more in a year?

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That whole gun collector thing sounds fishy to me. He got like 35 of the 42 guns just in the last year.

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Spot on.

Don't know.

The way the sheriff said things yesterday in his afternoon press conference led me to believe that he knew somethings about motive and possible accomplice(s.

You can be sure that anyone who was an accomplice didn't just come forward and say that they helping him.

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That whole gun collector thing sounds fishy to me. He got like 35 of the 42 guns just in the last year.

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Do we know when the month he bought the first of the recent ones?

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I fricking hope so. Based on what we know now, (prior to his hellish atrocities), he's the guy most men would resemble their life after. Money, traveler, multiple houses, Asian gf, no responsibilities in his 60s. His only concern was what casino to play and whether it was steak or lobster night, or both. The American dream basically. It's confusing as shite for now and I hope it's something other than him popping too many meds, because I don't see how we recognize or prevent the next one. I can't get that video out of my head that was posted last night. Terrible and never needs to happen again.

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While I agree on the Asian thing, most prefer an attractive Asian.

Seriously, why does everyone want a well established motive? Why can't it just be something some sick frick decided to do for only reasons he could understand (in his sick mind)? I guess no one wants to think that at any time some sick dickhead can plan and carry out an attack like this guy did, but in reality it can happen at any time... anywhere. And to a certain degree there are things you just can't prevent. Like a tornado. All of a sudden they appear, wreck shite up and they are gone.

Did James Holmes have a motive when he shot up the movie theater in Colorado?

I mean, the government can somehow come up with a way to take every gun out of the US an air tight system on preventing them from coming into the country, but since that isn't at all reasonable, it's just something that will happen from time to time.

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Girlfriend came home from the Philippines in a wheelchair

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Wheelchair folks usually are the last off the plane. Perhaps they wanted to clear out the gate and bring her off last to avoid any crowds.