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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:22 am to
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meaning what? she has family there? has she ever lived there? was she born there?


Originally from there and has family there.

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Let's just throw the ISIS Philippines theories in the garbage please


Been trying to do that since the night this all happened.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:25 am to
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Originally from there and has family there
Don't forget that's where she just flew in from, that's where she has been for months, and that's where he sent $100k+
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:27 am to
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Let's just throw the ISIS Philippines theories in the garbage please
Why would you dismiss this already? There's still a lot we don't know.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:29 am to
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Originally from there
again what does this mean? Was she born there, was it ever her permanent residence?

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Don't forget that's where she just flew in from, that's where she has been for months, and that's where he sent $100k+

separate from the ISIS nonsense did any information come out about why it was said she was in Tokyo
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:32 am to
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that's where she has been for months


She arrived in the Philippines on Sept 25th.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:34 am to
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Why would you dismiss this already? There's still a lot we don't know.
because it is not plausible at this point and the only reason it exists is because of morons wanting so badly for it to be Muslim related
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:34 am to
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Was she born there, was it ever her permanent residence?


According to the Australian authorities, she was born there and "originally from" there. I haven't been able to find how long she lived there, but she has family there. They said she hasn't lived in Australia in over 20 years.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:34 am to
Haven't been keeping up with this.

Have there been any big breakthroughs in a possible motive or conspirators?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:35 am to
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and the only reason it exists is because of morons wanting so badly for it to be Muslim related


Pretty much this. Some of it is also probably people who don't know how to rationalize how this could have been done by a "normal person" who didn't have terrorist connections. I can understand that difficulty. Very hard to wrap my mind around.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:36 am to
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again what does this mean? Was she born there, was it ever her permanent residence?


Yes, and she goes there regularly. Went there with the killer in thw last few months.

She was also in Dubai some around rich poker players from all over the middle east and world.
Posted by TakingStock
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:36 am to
Has anyone brought up the receipt that was supposedly posted by a Mandalay Bay employee showing that Paddock ordered room service for "2 guests", a day before it was said that he checked in? Is that legit?
Posted by scubafeet
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:37 am to
Don’t know if discussed but there was ground video shooter that lasted about 5 minutes on Facebook. Anyone know if real or where it’s still up?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:38 am to
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Pretty much this. Some of it is also probably people who don't know how to rationalize how this could have been done by a "normal person" who didn't have terrorist connections. I can understand that difficulty. Very hard to wrap my mind around


I think it's very plausible for it to be connected to a terror group. But the theory of it being ISIS in the Philippines via his GF is nonsensical
Posted by lsujunky
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:38 am to
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I'll jump in here. Regardless of what this guy had up there the conversion to full auto is not terribly challenging. A template to drill some holes and a lightning link and you are set as long as you can get a hold of an M16 bolt and carrier group.

The M16 internals are probably the only thing hard to get that require a license. If you're prepared to commit a felony the receiver mods and the lightning link are childs play for any competent fabricator.

Additionally, if you have enough money, legal full auto guns can be purchased that are pre-NFA. Now, one pre-NFA full auto M16 can fetch over $10k these days but they do exist.

Honestly, this guy could have wreaked just as much havoc with timed, well placed shots with proper optics and ranging in semi auto mode with any decent AR10 (308 caliber). It wouldn't have been as dramatic but the crowd wouldn't have dispersed as quickly if he would have shot one shot every 3 seconds or so. Also, not shooting as much would have delayed the smoke detectors which is what gave away his position.

I guess my point is that regardless of illegal guns, or legal guns, some nutcase can find a way especially if he is determined and patient.





All my AR's have M16 bolt carriers. They are sold on every gun site.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:41 am to
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because it is not plausible at this point and the only reason it exists is because of morons wanting so badly for it to be Muslim related
Why is it not plausible, especially considering ISIS has claimed responsibility?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:42 am to
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Has anyone brought up the receipt that was supposedly posted by a Mandalay Bay employee showing that Paddock ordered room service for "2 guests", a day before it was said that he checked in? Is that legit?


It may be legit, but I don't think it necessarily means anything. The amount of food ordered wasn't over the top, and having 3 drinks could have been him stocking up so he didn't have to leave the room to get a drink. The number of guests is likely linked to the reservation system, which probably defaults to 2 guests per room.
Posted by LZ83
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:42 am to
May have just been setting up and didn't want to be disturbed so he ordered 2 meals. One for then and one for later.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:43 am to
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Some of it is also probably people who don't know how to rationalize how this could have been done by a "normal person" who didn't have terrorist connections.

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:43 am to
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Yes, and she goes there regularly. Went there with the killer in thw last few months.

She was also in Dubai some around rich poker players from all over the middle east and world.


Yes to what? Was it ever her permanent residence or was she born there?
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:43 am to
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Has anyone brought up the receipt that was supposedly posted by a Mandalay Bay employee showing that Paddock ordered room service for "2 guests", a day before it was said that he checked in? Is that legit?


He booked two adjoining rooms. Gotta make things look legit. Also, he needed that cart. He would not have received a cart for one meal.
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