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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:43 am to
Posted by USEyourCURDS
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:43 am to
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Don’t know if discussed but there was ground video shooter


Posted by ForkEmDemons
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:44 am to
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Pretty much this. Some of it is also probably people who don't know how to rationalize how this could have been done by a "normal person" who didn't have terrorist connections. I can understand that difficulty. Very hard to wrap my mind around.


Stephen King commented on this a while back regarding the JFK conspiracy. I think in many ways he touches on why so many people seem to want to cling to a "second gunman" or isis in this tragedy. There is something unsettling in knowing that one person can disrupt life so much.

His exact quote

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We find it difficult to believe that one lone wingnut with a gun could kill the most powerful man in the world. But we’ve seen it time and time and time again. We saw it with John Lennon—that was no conspiracy, it was just a crazy lone gunman who killed him. Bridget Carpenter, the showrunner, came to disagree with me, but I think Oswald was acting alone.


source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-king-talks-jfk-oscars-diversity-and-bulletproof-donald-trump
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:45 am to
A look at the shooter's Father who reinvented himself many,many times

[[quote]link=(https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-las-vegas-shooter-family-from-chicago-20171003-story.html)]The Shooter's Father lead a life of crime FBI 10 most wanted[/link]
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:46 am to
I think that's spot on. It definitely just doesn't sit right with my spirit to think about this being possible because one nutcase went crazy for no real reason.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:51 am to
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Was it ever her permanent residence or was she born there?



Yes to both, and I'd heard early on that her family over there had muslim names. Not saying that means anything, but that information ties in to my thought process.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:52 am to
Link
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:53 am to
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Link


Dude, I cant find it now. It was yesterday somewhere.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:54 am to
abc news

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Her brother, Reynaldo Bustos, said he immediately contacted his sister when he saw the news that Paddock had allegedly opened fire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on a country music festival crowd killing 58 people and injuring 530 others. Police say Paddock shot himself before a SWAT team broke down the door to the hotel suite.

"I called her up immediately and she said, 'Relax, we shouldn't worry about it. I'll fix it. Do not panic. I have a clean conscience,'" Bustos told ABC News in his native Tagalog language today outside the capital of Manila.
What a weird thing to say.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:55 am to
Her brother's name is Reynaldo Bustos not Muslim-sounding at all.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:00 pm to
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her family over there had muslim names.


Haven't seen that reported anywhere other than the Political Talk board.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:02 pm to
Reynaldo in Arabic means Christian killer
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:03 pm to
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her family over there had muslim names.


Haven't seen that reported anywhere other than the Political Talk board.
Havent heard this reported anywhere either.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Haven't seen that reported anywhere other than the Political Talk board


Let me walk that back a bit...there was an internet claim that before she took her facebook down, there were a bunch of "Friends" with muslim names in her list. I don't know if that is true.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:04 pm to
Oh okay. Wouldn't surprise me with her travels to Dubai.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:04 pm to
I think there's too many coincidental connections that there wasn't some sort of ISIS type effect on this whacko.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:09 pm to
Yeah, I'm leaning to him not leaving anything behind. No motive. That was probably his plan all along. We may never find out what made him snap.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:13 pm to
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I'm leaning to him not leaving anything behind. No motive.


don't you want to leave your motive or point behind? Isn't that the whole point?
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:14 pm to
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We may never find out what made him snap.


I believe we will.

The Sheriff in his press conference yesterday said that they were confident a motive will be found.

I believe that the motive is already known and the investigation is continuing with future charges being brought against other people.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:14 pm to
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don't you want to leave your motive or point behind? Isn't that the whole point?


Not necessarily if you are criminally mentally ill.
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