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Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:58 pm to
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You don't know HOW it happened. You know WHAT happened. How do you not understand this?
I'm not trying to get caught between you and shel, but we know a few things about how it happened. I'm assuming you're talking about the more nuanced parts of it, like how he brought the guns to his room, etc.?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:59 pm to
I don't think it had anything to do with country music fans. They were just the vehicle. It could have been any event at that time in that spot and he was going to do what he did.
Posted by Psychoanalysis
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2017
125 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:59 pm to
I'm surprised there's not a shatter alarm on all the windows. You'd think the hotel would have them rigged up maybe?
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:59 pm to
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I'm not trying to get caught between you and shel, but we know a few things about how it happened
Admins gonna ban you son!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:00 pm to
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I'm surprised there's not a shatter alarm on all the windows. You'd think the hotel would have them rigged up maybe?

That was one of my 1st thoughts as well. Then I figured maybe they do, not sure why I'm assuming they don't?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74241 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:00 pm to
It was. They were at the room in twenty minutes, but if you listen to the scanner it was at the hour mark or so that swat was ready. To be fair patrol officers are outgunned, especially thinking there were three.
If it were a movie a sharpshooter in a helicopter would have ended it, but in real life it was hectic.

A lieutenant kept saying " don't report casualties we need to contain it" yet the police kept reporting. You can tell command took a long time to realize the scope.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:01 pm to
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What part of the how do you have questions about?



Idk, maybe the part about getting enough guns and ammo to his location to pull it off. Did he work alone? What resources did he use? How far in advanced was it planned? Etc etc

But I know, you're so dense you think "irrational man shoot to kill, nothing to figure out"
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27869 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:02 pm to
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They’ve known this guy’s identity for over 12 hours but it still seems like almost nothing is known about him.


I would suspect that a lot is know about him that has not been made public.

I know that people want instant answers with today's media/social media but It is going to take a little bit of time for the information to filter out to the general public.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
178861 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:04 pm to
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I don't think it had anything to do with country music fans.


You got to think that he thought it fit the demographic he was targeting. but that's just me.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18947 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:04 pm to
Sad, sad, sad...
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69078 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:04 pm to
Of course the shooter owned a house in Florida
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Idk, maybe the part about getting enough guns and ammo to his location to pull it off.
I think we can make easy, safe assumptions on how he did this. In a bag/suitcase. What are the other options?

quote:

Did he work alone?
Pretty sure LVPD answered this one as well.


No, we dont know how long it took to plan it.

This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19369 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:07 pm to
He was also there for a couple of days and could have brought them in a little at a time.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Of course the shooter owned a house in Florida



Always some connection to it.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6066 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:08 pm to
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He was also there for a couple of days and could have brought them in a little a time.


Getting them into the room is the easy part
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:09 pm to
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Idk, maybe the part about getting enough guns and ammo to his location to pull it off.


It's a convention hotel. People show up all the time there for stays with their own personal items, then multiple hard cases of tradeshow stations, materials, etc. Give the bellhop $10 and they'll be in your room in 15 minutes.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

I think we can make easy, safe assumptions on how he did this. In a bag/suitcase. What are the other options?


You go load up 20 assault rifles and the ammunition to boot in a bag/suitcase and tore it around by your lonesome, since you have it all figured out.

quote:

Pretty sure LVPD answered this one as well.



No, not really. We have very limited info.

quote:

No, we dont know how long it took to plan it


You, or we for that matter, don't know shite other than what happened.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16086 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Of course the shooter owned a house in Florida
You stupid!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105276 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:10 pm to
Well that didn't take long

Crisis actors
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