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re: Mass shooting at the Grand Theatre, Lafayette. Confirmed by KATC
Posted on 7/25/15 at 12:25 am to REG861
Posted on 7/25/15 at 12:25 am to REG861
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You're giving them way too much credit, although you get the opportunism part right.
This is derailing the meaning of the thread however:
The Phelps family, their foundation Fred and Shirley were and are both highly educated people. Now the people who follow them maybe not so much. However, like I mentioned they know their rights and they can lawyer up with the best of them. The best move is to ignore, not indulge and act on your legal right to prevent their or allow others to hear their protest.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 12:28 am
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 12:36 am to Carson123987
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There's no such thing as a "complete" background check. Every FFL (federal firearms licensee) uses the FBI NICS system, of which the states are divided into full point of contact, partial POC, and non POC. Alabama is non-POC, along with 30 other states. He would've gotten that gun mo matter what, ignoring the law that you have to be a resident of the state you're buying a handgun from.
We agree on pretty much everything except guns. I sell them, though, so I'm biased.
Hey man don't get me wrong, I think private, lawful citizens should have access to firearms. I plan on purchasing one soon. I'll admit I don't have a full understanding of how background checks work, but I do know it's too easy for people like Rusty Houser, with a history of violent episodes, imprisonment, and mental illness to legally purchase firearms. There is no surefire, easy solution though which I get, especially given a lack of comprehensive background checks. Which is one reason i think it's funny when some people here just throw out the two words 'mental health' as some deflection without even intending to elaborate. Ie, "Why aren't we more concerned about 'mental health?' really.. If you give a shite about mental health for any other reason than a distraction, please give us the most basic rundown of your solution to the 'mental health' problem.
sorry meant 'mental health,' not mental illness. I got my meaningless, nebulous buzzwords mixed up
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 12:44 am
Posted on 7/25/15 at 12:44 am to REG861
Amen. I, myself, don't have a solution for mentally ill. I have kinda a defeatist attitude in regards to it, in that I believe we could have all the mental health awareness and funding in the world, and stuff like this would still happen. I think these guys just slip through the cracks. This guy's a 58 year old man, and at first I thought "shame on his family," but I guess it's just unfathomable to comprehend a family member doing this. Not much you can act on unless you find weapons or plans or whatever
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:29 am to REG861
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stop the complete denial.
Screw you, bitch. I didn't deny anything.
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Wherever he bought it failed to do a complete background check, that's on them.
FBI said it was a legal purchase. Try to keep up Jr.
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Do you think a pawn shop in Phenix City, Alabama is going to to run thorough background checks on every yokel who comes in?
See above. Yes, they will if they want to keep their license .... and FBI said they did. I have no idea as to how background checks are conducted in Alabama.
It would be wise if you read a little and knew anything about the laws before you just jumped in and end up looking stupid.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 3:05 am
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:34 am to Carson123987
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Alabama is non-POC
That explains how he could slip through the cracks. Mental health and prior convictions don't show or don't matter. Bad idea.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:00 am to REG861
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i think it's funny when some people here just throw out the two words 'mental health' as some deflection
So you expect me to expound on the term "mental health" every time I mention it? .... and then present my own comprehensive plan on how to deal with mental health issues before a firearm can be purchased? You give me too much credit.
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and mental illness to legally purchase firearms.
News frickin break. You just threw out "the two words 'mental illness' as some deflection without even intending to elaborate." I didn't go into detail on arson conviction either. It's just questions I had. At least Carson could explain for me.
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Rusty Houser, with a history of violent episodes, imprisonment, and mental illness to legally purchase firearms.
Is this denial??? You didn't know?? OH MY!!! Stop deflecting and do please elaborate for us. You added imprisonment as another deflection. What does that mean exactly? How should we deal with it?
You sure sucked up to Carson when he put you in your place! 
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 3:08 am
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:18 am to Redbone
Did we ever get an idea on how many people were even in the movie when it happened? Thursday night at 7 on at the grand, new movie, maybe 25-30?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 5:04 am to Paedin
25 tickets were sold they said
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:15 am to Uncle JackD
Damn
Thank god he chose a thursday and not a friday
Could have been a lot worse
Eta: I realize that sounds awful to the actual victims, but I think you get my point
Thank god he chose a thursday and not a friday
Could have been a lot worse
Eta: I realize that sounds awful to the actual victims, but I think you get my point
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 7:19 am
Posted on 7/25/15 at 8:26 am to Croacka
Smh
Posted on 7/25/15 at 8:32 am to Croacka
Croaka : Houser purposely chose a Thursday evening since no police were on duty at the Grand. This would have given him a better chance to get away through the side exit door. Police only work Fri and Sat do to the larger crowds on weekends.
I agree 100% this could have been a whole lot worse
I agree 100% this could have been a whole lot worse
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:57 am to Volvagia
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That's how blatantly you are going to try to reach to make political hay out of this?
How is stating a fact making political hay out of it?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:08 am to Got Blaze
I would imagine that even if WBC shows up, which is probably not gonna happen, nothing physical will happen but there are enough affliction shirting, diesel burning dudes in town.
If I had one, I'd coal roll them pretty good. Think it would be hilarious. Although I thinks it's been done before at another occasion.
If I had one, I'd coal roll them pretty good. Think it would be hilarious. Although I thinks it's been done before at another occasion.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:08 am to TheOcean
Imagine all the people who saw a movie in that theater the day of, or right before the shooting, or even the day or weekend before. And the people who considered going to the movie, but decided not to for whatever reason. They're probably pretty shaken up.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:34 am to TheIndulger
Yeah, most of them are in this thread apparently. Or their cousin's brother's nephew's sister in law was
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:06 am to TheIndulger
Does anyone know which theater it was? I saw Ant-Man in #7 a week ago.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:32 am to CP3forMVP
Johnston street
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:33 am to TigerHam85
Theatre 14 I believe
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:40 am to tunechi
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Yeah, most of them are in this thread apparently. Or their cousin's brother's nephew's sister in law was
Got out a few hours before it happened. Just glad he wasn't a matinee kind of guy.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 11:43 am
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:58 am to TheOcean
It is stating an irrelevant fact that is not germane to the story.
Its made even worse by the fact that they felt uncertain about whatever method they used to find this out, enough to qualify the statement in the story, but also felt it was something the public urgently needed to know.
And its not the first time we have seen shite like this.
If you truly don't understand why it is not making political hay, why don't you answer me these questions:
Why bring up his past groups at all? The story is what he did, not a biography.
Is there a claim that his associations with the Tea Party is part of the motivation of why he did this?
If not, why bring up that association in particular as opposed to his entire history of affiliations?
EDIT: And digging a little deeper, the point that they are using to bring that up, is him being a registered user of a website.
Its like a news report bringing up the fact that someone is a member of Tigerdroppings in a DWI story.
Its made even worse by the fact that they felt uncertain about whatever method they used to find this out, enough to qualify the statement in the story, but also felt it was something the public urgently needed to know.
And its not the first time we have seen shite like this.
If you truly don't understand why it is not making political hay, why don't you answer me these questions:
Why bring up his past groups at all? The story is what he did, not a biography.
Is there a claim that his associations with the Tea Party is part of the motivation of why he did this?
If not, why bring up that association in particular as opposed to his entire history of affiliations?
EDIT: And digging a little deeper, the point that they are using to bring that up, is him being a registered user of a website.
Its like a news report bringing up the fact that someone is a member of Tigerdroppings in a DWI story.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 12:06 pm
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