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Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:58 pm to 2_4_LSU
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You can check my post history, I have possibly 14 post now, I believe, 2 of those previous were on similar events.
You should go back to hiding as this isn't the 90s anymore. Blaming Natural Born Killers and "RPG shooter games" was a ridiculous take. You're 30 years late with this mindset.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:58 pm to tigerskin
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:00 pm to 2_4_LSU
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1. Deinstitustiinalizing mental health patients. 2. The release of the movie "Natural Born Killers", which glamourized the thoughts of killing sprees. 3. The proliferation of RPG shooter games on game consoles.
Mental health, or the lack of is a major problem. The stigma on mental health issues, even for male teenagers is a real thing. In 2024 males from grown men down to preteens still view mental health as weak because of the way the world works.
Most people under 30 have never heard of NBK, and I would put more blame on social media compared to first person shooter video games. It’s to late to put it back in the box, but maybe having access to everyone in the world via social media and comparing yourself VS everyone else wasn’t the best thing. You really never know what someone is capable of but I believe a 14 year old kid that’s living in a stable and loving family environment with both parents and extended family unit is less likely to commit mass murder VS someone who doesn’t have that.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:05 pm to TigerHornII
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TigerHornII
Right on everything!
Most of the people using the “common sense gun laws” have zero common sense!
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:07 pm to 2_4_LSU
First one yeah. Them second two, about two decades too late. I both watched that movie (it's shite btw), and have played shooters since I was 11. I'm not on any govt watch lists...that I know about
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:00 pm to 2_4_LSU
I've waded through the 21 pages...
a few years ago I thought "common sense gun laws" had some merit. I am even a gun owner. After seeing what has happened in Europe, I have done a complete 180. You can't give anybody in Washington an inch, or they will take the mile. Enforce what's on the books, and you can solve some of these crimes.
Next, this kid was on the radar. So...what should be done? I ask because I don't know. They said they couldn't make an arrest. Do you confiscate dad's hunting rifles? Do you make online threats like his criminal, and if so, what is the punishment?
My opinion is that this is a mental health issue. As a teacher, I see it daily. I have to bite my tongue when little Johnny shows up dressed as a girl and wants to go by Mel. Usually, it turns out to be a phase. I even had a senior student laugh at her own gender confusion from when she was a freshman. But what if it isn't a phase? We have so many students with behavioral markers that essentially allow them to act out and behave inappropriately. That being said, there's a wide gap between some kid who is "autistic" and a kid who wants to shoot up a school.
I do think we need more brick and mortar behavioral hospitals, but who determines which people need to be locked up in those facilities? If you leave that to the government, you've established another slippery slope.
The other obvious answer is the breakdown of family values. Parents let cellphones, video games, and TV raise their kids. Sure, I played some first person shooter games back in my day. I also ventured to some gory websites. Nowadays, everything is more realistic. There's much more bad shite to find online now than there was when most of this site's members were in school. It's more easily accessible as well.
a few years ago I thought "common sense gun laws" had some merit. I am even a gun owner. After seeing what has happened in Europe, I have done a complete 180. You can't give anybody in Washington an inch, or they will take the mile. Enforce what's on the books, and you can solve some of these crimes.
Next, this kid was on the radar. So...what should be done? I ask because I don't know. They said they couldn't make an arrest. Do you confiscate dad's hunting rifles? Do you make online threats like his criminal, and if so, what is the punishment?
My opinion is that this is a mental health issue. As a teacher, I see it daily. I have to bite my tongue when little Johnny shows up dressed as a girl and wants to go by Mel. Usually, it turns out to be a phase. I even had a senior student laugh at her own gender confusion from when she was a freshman. But what if it isn't a phase? We have so many students with behavioral markers that essentially allow them to act out and behave inappropriately. That being said, there's a wide gap between some kid who is "autistic" and a kid who wants to shoot up a school.
I do think we need more brick and mortar behavioral hospitals, but who determines which people need to be locked up in those facilities? If you leave that to the government, you've established another slippery slope.
The other obvious answer is the breakdown of family values. Parents let cellphones, video games, and TV raise their kids. Sure, I played some first person shooter games back in my day. I also ventured to some gory websites. Nowadays, everything is more realistic. There's much more bad shite to find online now than there was when most of this site's members were in school. It's more easily accessible as well.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:41 pm to PJinAtl
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The family moved. When he was ID'd and interviewed in May 2023 they lived in Jackson County. Apalachee is in Barrow County. Someone dropped the ball in not tipping the new school about the 2023 incident.
Parents should be charged as well
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:52 pm to SnoopALoop
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You should go back to hiding as this isn't the 90s anymore. Blaming Natural Born Killers and "RPG shooter games" was a ridiculous take. You're 30 years late with this mindset.
Sorry, but to me it’s insane that there are video games that normalize FPS and murdering more people results in an higher score. How can we not expect there is a percentage of society that gets affected by this and is less sensitive to it?
And I’m not taking about the majority, I played some of these games, but rather the kids that are more prone to it based on mental health and family dynamics.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:53 pm to oleheat
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In fact, you don't have to imagine. Take a look at today's Great Britain. People are getting thrown in jail over "offensive speech" as a matter of policy.
Sound good to you?
You’re responding to a leftist. So yes, he likely supports the crackdown on “offensive” speech in Britain. He likely also supports the banning of Twitter in Brazil and jailing of the Telegram owner in France. Weird how it’s the leftists attacking free speech right now in a meaningful way and on a grand scale. Yet according to Reddit or Facebook, you’d think the real problem is conservatives who don’t want sex themed books in elementary schools.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:00 am to TexasTiger08
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a few years ago I thought "common sense gun laws" had some merit. I am even a gun owner. After seeing what has happened in Europe, I have done a complete 180. You can't give anybody in Washington an inch, or they will take the mile. Enforce what's on the books, and you can solve some of these crimes.
Exactly right. We already have a bunch of gun laws and gun restrictions. Liberals, who’ve never bought a gun in their lives, argue as if any guns are totally unregulated.
Meanwhile, it’s these same liberals who want to import the third world, let everyone out of jail, continue welfare policies, and cheer on the destruction of the nuclear family. These people don’t care about crime and don’t care about school shootings except as a means of taking guns from suburban dads. Like with everything, this issue also comes down to race and they hate white men. They don’t want white men to have ARs.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:28 am to biglego
If this kid threatened to shot up a school last year, how the f does that kid get ahold of a gun?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:45 am to MikeD
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Sorry, but to me it’s insane that there are video games that normalize FPS and murdering more people results in an higher score. How can we not expect there is a percentage of society that gets affected by this and is less sensitive to it? And I’m not taking about the majority, I played some of these games, but rather the kids that are more prone to it based on mental health and family dynamics.
Shut the frick up, clown. Your 90’s pearlclutching belongs in the 90’s
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:35 am to Proximo
You laugh, but I think there’s merit to the video game theory.
We constantly say this young generation is more pussified, medicated, mentally weak, influenced by social media, etc. I think that also means they’re more likely to see violence and want to imitate. Sure, a violent game may not have meant a damn thing to you or me in terms of being influenced, but with someone who already has some screws loose…yeah, I could see it being a bit of an issue.
We constantly say this young generation is more pussified, medicated, mentally weak, influenced by social media, etc. I think that also means they’re more likely to see violence and want to imitate. Sure, a violent game may not have meant a damn thing to you or me in terms of being influenced, but with someone who already has some screws loose…yeah, I could see it being a bit of an issue.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:40 am to diddlydawg7
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Winder is not an Atlanta suburb
Its a great area. About as average American as it gets. Do not know about the school but I would bet its about as average as they get in the US with about as average kids and staff.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:41 am to MikeD
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Sorry, but to me it’s insane that there are video games that normalize FPS and murdering more people results in an higher score. How can we not expect there is a percentage of society that gets affected by this and is less sensitive to it?
You do realize violent crime has been trending DOWNWARD for decades, right?
The proliferation of violent crime has had an INVERSE relationship with the proliferation of more graphic and violent video games.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:42 am to PJinAtl
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I'll change it to Atlanta area...
But really and truly Barrow and Walton are becoming very suburban as folks are pushed out of Gwinnett.
About as much or more traffic in the mornings headed west on 316 as east. Its a bedroom community for Atlanta and Athens. May not be a suburb of Atlanta but you'd be hard pressed to find a line between it and Lawrenceville, other than the county line of course.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:45 am to deeprig9
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Appalachee High School is considered one of the good ones.
I assumed it was but wasn't certain. Winder is all in all a pretty nice area.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:56 am to tigerskin
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Also mom (Marcee Gray) went to jail in November 2023 for drugs
Yeah that's definitely meth
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Waay to late for that to be a consideration here. The supply of black market guns would be incredible.
Y'all need to find something more practical than bannings.
Bannings won't work and will cut off most of democratic candidate funding so banning will never be a true consideration. Guns are to democratic politicians what abortion was to Republicans. A car chasing dog has no idea what to do with the car when it is caught. The GOP caught the car.
What will work is for law enforcement to follow up with rigor when a suspect is identified as a potential crazy fricker. This person was, apparently, investigated sometime in the last 12 months by the FBI for threatening posts on social media. This is not unusual. Making it more difficult for such people to gain access to guns is not a slippery slope leading- to the feds coming to my door demanding my duck gun, at least not in any world that does not require tin foil hats. Unfortunately we live in a world where people with a financial interest in stoking unfounded fears about the feds showing up at my door demanding my duck gun are more than happy to provide the tin foil. Folks donning the tin foil are OK with kids being shot as long as their irrational fears are not infringed upon.
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