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re: Mass casualty shooting in Minneapolis at a church school 20 victims

Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:07 am to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36170 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:07 am to
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Why would anyone choose to target innocent children like that?


They are attacking "Christian Nationalists" whom they believe are attempting to take over the United States.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:10 am to
How did this person get radicalized to the point of targeting young Catholic kids? What were they so immersed with that they thought this was a good thing to do?
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3735 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:18 am to
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How did this person get radicalized to the point of targeting young Catholic kids?
I just think this school/church was an easy target for him since he knew so much about it. His mom taught there until she retired, and didn’t he go there as a kid?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74881 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:41 am to
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People lunging after identify politics the day children are killed are not better than people lunging for guns.


false equivalence.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:51 am to
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I just think this school/church was an easy target for him s


It’s disturbing so people want to know why.

Why target them? Why target anyone?

Foolish, impressionable, and stupid people exist everywhere. Most of them don’t become a radical terrorist with a manifesto and write political statements on their weapon.

What radicalized this person to become a terrorist?
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 6:52 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:01 am to
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But a group of kids was targeted for their religion. frick you, Binger, for excusing it!


This

We know. Parents everywhere know.

Motivation was ideological. The shooter even has it in plain text at how angry they are at this country. It’s happened before.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8249 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:14 am to
Did the fruit kill themselves too?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:17 am to
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Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1550 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:21 am to
Trans people are by nature hateful extremists.

These are people that want people to be upset. They take positions and do things ONLY for that reason,

Being trans is the current thing to do to purposely be outside the lines and upset people. They HATE that NORMAL people are happy and live to make them unhappy and many want them dead. They are suffering from mental disease.

Once the enablers force society to totally accept trannies, the extreme will say they want to screw trees. They probably already have a letter for it in 2SLGBTQQIPAA. They already have folks striving to accept pedorasts.

Acceptance just makes them move to the next thing,
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 7:22 am
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:27 am to
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a group didn’t shoot kids today.


You and your fellow cross-dressers are the most violent group of mentally damaged psychopaths amongst the population. Y’all are also cowards who target children. Y’all should either be involuntarily confined to an institution or put against the wall for eradication
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 7:28 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14068 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:31 am to
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3) Your “bearded guy” argument is stupid. In reality, you can scientifically determine biological sex through chromosomes, and/or hormone markers. [/b] And socially, almost everyone (that’s not a fricking weirdo) would categorize this imaginary person as male — whether or not it aligns with this whatever’s self-identity. So, pretending “no one alive can do so” is just more of your dramatic bullshite.




You are 100% correct as any person who is not ignorant or willfully ignorant or just stupid knows. Science can indeed identify biological sex, it is an undeniable fact...and with the exception of very rare examples there are 2 biological sexes and almost every human being who ever lived, lives now or will live in the future is biologically one or the other. This is a fact which cannot be denied despite there being people who do indeed deny this fact...they are simply wrong. There are also people whop deny that the earth is not flat.

You are also 100% that SOCIALLY, the word you used, almost everyone would identify the mythical bearded person I used as an example as a man and even a biological male based on the social expectations most of us share about what that means. The issue arises when the individual in question does not identify themselves as a man or a biological male. Fortunately for most people this is never an issue, most of us never consider our gender identity...we are what other see us as. For some people this is not the case. Given the small portion of humanity who experiences this it is indeed, by definition, strange, weird, out of the ordinary, whatever term, because it is outside of what is normal. There is a lot of shite that is weird...folks are different, some very different. Different isn't inherently wrong, its simply different.

You are off the mark as far a gender and sex being synonymous. This has somewhat been the case since sometime in the mid 15th century yet English dictionaries then and now made clear distinctions that the terms were not interchangable given that sex is a biological fact while gender is based on social expectations. The English versions of the 2 terms have been in use since the 5th century and for about 1000 years were not considered synonymous and the Latin versions of both predate that usage by about 2000 years so for at least 3500 years of human usage of the terms in any manner they have only been loosely related for about 500 or about 14% of the time they have existed. Historically the terms were not synonymous and they are not consider synonymous today by lexicographers.

Finally gaslighting. A pattern of misunderstanding terms emerges. Generally gaslighting is defined as " a form of psychological abuse or manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim’s mind. Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by [b]distorting reality
and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition". Stating a fact which is verifiable by anyone interested in verifying it is not "distorting reality". If someone tells you 2 plus 2 is 4 they are not gaslighting you, they are merely pointing out a fact. If you believed or thought 2 plus 2 was 5 you were simply wrong. When I wrote that sex and gender are not synonymous I did so because they are not and the data is abundantly clear that they are not....just like 2 plus 2 is 4. An individual can have an opinion, we all do, and they can vary from person to person. We can't have our own facts however. 2 plus 2 is 4 every day of the week and twice on Sunday, as they say. If a person chooses to thing 2 plus 2 is 5 that is a decision the person is making, one which ignores a blatantly obvious and well known fact. If someone tells that person they are wrong they aren't trying to manipulate their perception or judgement, they are merely pointing out they are objectively wrong.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:33 am to
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This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 8:48 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:46 am to
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Trans people are by nature hateful extremists.


Some (not all) of the LGBTQ+ people I know are pretty hateful or are perceived as hateful. As in seemingly intolerant of any alternative world view. If you aren’t with them at that moment you are against them kind of thing.

Part of it is because they are marginalized and don’t give a shite about being nice back to anyone. They are hyper tribal because their tribe is the only one that accepts them. It’s a chip on their shoulder that causes them to behave in a way that breaks the trust of people around them, which frustrates them and causes them to perpetuate their behavior. It’s fair to show empathy to these people and they usually will recognize and appreciate that.

Unfortunately for part of this group it is not a chip. It’s pure radicalization from within that community whose highly successful movement has largely been hijacked by increasingly extreme political movements that aren’t even related to LGBTQ+ issues. Nothing a normal person can do is enough. No amount of decency or kindness from a Christian is enough. They will hate you.

Unfortunately you can’t tell if that person you work with or lives in the apartment next to you is the radical lunatic or just acts like an a-hole because of some chip on their shoulder.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:32 am
Posted by Athletix
Member since Dec 2012
5143 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:49 am to
Absolutely tragic - I pray that their deaths lead to changes that will save more lives in the future.

Our local school already has contacted and implemented an escort for the kids to and from mass, and for officers to stay detailed outside the church. Figuring most departments should be slow mid day/ early morning, this would be cheap for schools to get police departments to pick up the detail. Most departments would probably offer the service free of charge.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74881 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:52 am to
Congrats, AwgustaDog! You just wrote another 2,000 word essay to circle back and basically agree with me.

Science determines sex, dictionaries did list sex and gender as synonyms, and your “unknowable = undefined” dodge is still gaslighting no matter how much bad math homework you sprinkle in.

I’ll admit for an old guy, you’ve got stamina. You don’t argue, you filibuster — drowning threads in essays nobody reads. Here’s a tip: Brevity…. it’s the difference between making a point and being background noise.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 7:53 am
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1161 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:52 am to
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How did this person get radicalized to the point of targeting young Catholic kids? What were they so immersed with that they thought this was a good thing to do?


Hormone treatment. There is plenty of case history that being injected with the hormones of the opposite sex - there are ONLY TWO - will mess you up far worse than anything you can take that matches your sex. Anyone who has had hormonal imbalances and treated them with the correct hormones will tell you that it made a huge difference in their attitudes and behavior.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:52 am to
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This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131604 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:52 am to
Awgustadawg going for the gold medal in mental gymnastics
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40383 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:54 am to
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AwgustaDawg



This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 7:56 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74881 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:54 am to
He has a real talent for drowning his nonsensical points in word soup. It’s not a debate for him, it’s a performance.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 7:57 am
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