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re: Mark Cuban is fed up with rural and urban hospitals crying poor/claiming insolvency
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:20 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:20 am to Jim Rockford
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BTW, medicare isn't "free." You're docked a payroll tax for it during your working life and once you enroll at 65 you pay a monthly premium.
You left out the "mandatory by law" part. And, if you sign up late, they penalize you for the rest of your life. But you are right. There is nothing "free" about Medicare. OP is badly misinformed.
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:24 am to danilo
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33% of Louisiana is on Medicaid. Pathetic
And foodstamps, Sec 8, SSDI, etc... We are literally dragging a 3rd of the country along behi9nd us. These people contributed little to nothing to society. It's disgusting when you think about it in context of personal responsibility and accountability. Unsustainable.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:25 am to Hetfield
We should be able to deny them care. In Mexico, they make visitors pay cash up front for medical if you need it. Not sure why we have to provide anything o a non-citizen.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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More than 400 hospitals across the U.S
39 in Arkansas alone. Look at Medicare reimbursement rates from state to state and in large blue cities/states. You'll see why. Poor healthcare scores become a self fulfilling prophecy. Take our medicare taxes and distribute to wealthier areas and then shite on our healthcare scores...makes sense.
10% in Arkansas. I'll guarantee Mississippi and Alabama are in the shitter with us as their rates are only a fraction above ours.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:32 am to Hetfield
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Rural hospitals & hospitals all over the country have been decimated by illegal aliens as you can't deny them care. Cuban has openly supported Democrats whose party supports open borders so they can flood the country with illegals who will have kids who will be American citizens who will vote overwhelmingly Democrat & the end game is amnesty for all illegals.
This. All day this. This is what people don't understand. Compassion to these people are making everyday life more expensive for Americans. They load up hospitals, get in car wrecks and flee the scene, commit crimes and police can't find them. This raises our insurance rates, makes it more expensive everywhere we go and taxes raised to support them. So sick of these bleeding heart liberals. And when insurance etc climbs, they blame Trump. Its so exhausting.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:39 am to Auburn80
actually UAB did build a new Hospital in Bessemer/McCalla (west end of Birmingham) - now it could be argued that they closed the old Medical West hospital and moved it a few miles to the new campus, but the fact is - the area they built it is in no way a rich area.
I will agree 1000% about the north BR
I will agree 1000% about the north BR
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:39 am to CrappyPants
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This. All day this. This is what people don't understand. Compassion to these people are making everyday life more expensive for Americans. They load up hospitals, get in car wrecks and flee the scene, commit crimes and police can't find them. This raises our insurance rates, makes it more expensive everywhere we go and taxes raised to support them. So sick of these bleeding heart liberals. And when insurance etc climbs, they blame Trump. Its so exhausting.
And they cannot turn them away. Many used to pay cash. I remember working the ER and delivering babies as a resident. Finish up "Cuanto te debo?". They'd pull out a wad of cash and pay. The hardworking ones didn't want and wouldn't accept charity. If they were short, they'd insist on working it off and if nothing to do, they bring whatever they had each and every day until that shite was paid off. I used to have some Mexican patients when we still had Con Agra and the oil fields were busier. Same way. Very appreciative and always paid. Those crossing the border and swamping the ERs, not so much.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 9:12 am to VooDude
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Very true.
Don’t hate the playa…
Posted on 4/3/26 at 9:46 am to dalefla
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And foodstamps, Sec 8, SSDI, etc... We are literally dragging a 3rd of the country along behi9nd us. These people contributed little to nothing to society. It's disgusting when you think about it in context of personal responsibility and accountability. Unsustainable
Work hard and pay taxes … so others don’t have to
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:24 am to bourbon_n_such
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However, our outpatient revenue is 4x our inpatient revenue.
I had a client hospital like that in Utah. Their outpatient revenue was primarily dialysis treatment. They happened to be very close to a reservation and the substance abuse leads to a lot of Kidney failure issues. Hence the dialysis treatments and revenue.
They have a great facility. One visit I got to enter the teepee outside with the tribal medicine man. They don’t allow a lot of white people to do that. It was a cool experience. Also, Blanding, Utah has a great place for Indian tacos on fry bread.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:43 am to Auburn80
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Nobody is going to build a hospital in north Baton Rouge or the west side of Birmingham.
They built one in west Birmingham 2 years ago.
eta: sorry Thracken, I see that you already addressed this.
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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rural and urban hospitals crying poor/claiming insolvency
Oschner will probably buy them soon enough. No worries
Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:32 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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had a client hospital like that in Utah. Their outpatient revenue was primarily dialysis treatment. They happened to be very close to a reservation and the substance abuse leads to a lot of Kidney failure issues. Hence the dialysis treatments and revenue.
My town of less than 10k has a dialysis clinic. No reservation, just a lot of fat people.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:02 pm to Dragula
quote:I would know coming from tech data science. It’s all about the industry you’re in. People in energy (o&g) employees make more. So do employees in most of tech and financial services companies.
Don’t hate the playa…
But when you’re working for a hospital or practice where the prices are hidden and not easily compared, then you can inflate the price as much as you want, especially under the guise of tax free, non profit religious institutions. The complexity helps with the margins especially with a highly skilled billing/insurance approval staff.
There is a damning correlation with industry/company profitability and employee salary. All worth it, but for hospitals, especially under religious affiliations is a fricking scam.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:31 pm to tigerinthebueche
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He’s a libtard just like every other libtard.
He's also a very successful business man.
I don't care what your social views are when the subject is economic. He recognizes and understands why the situation is the way it is and what can be done to improve the situation (not necessarily fix it. Probably can't completely fix it, but it can be improved).
To completely disregard his take because he doesn't share your political views is just a stupid way to go through life.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:50 pm to magildachunks
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He's also a very successful business man. I don't care what your social views are when the subject is economic. He recognizes and understands why the situation is the way it is and what can be done to improve the situation (not necessarily fix it. Probably can't completely fix it, but it can be improved). To completely disregard his take because he doesn't share your political views is just a stupid way to go through life.
Hospitals and private practices are not practicing capitalism, but billing like it is.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:16 am to VooDude
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Hospitals and private practices are not practicing capitalism, but billing like it is.
Somebody needs to sit them and Insurance companies in the same room and get everybody on the same page.
We had a life threatening situation happen in December (SO almost died from complete organ failure due to pancreatitis from HELLP.) and even with great insurance plan, we were still stuck with $130,000 bill after insurance chose what they would and wouldn't pay for.
First: what the hospital charged is damn near criminal, and I would also claim it to be unethical. Especially when you consider the fact that nothing the doctors ordered (treatment, medication, labs, etc.) was discussed with us, just ordered to perform and carried out. (It's not like we'd have said no. She was a few hours from dying). No costs were brought up, no multiple options offered for consideration. Basically no say in anything.
That's how people get ruined financially for decades, if not for life. It's bullshite really.
And it's not really the doctors' fault, they don't decide what it all costs. They are just concerned with treating the patient.
Second: Insurance companies being allowed to pick and choose what they are going to pay for is bullshite. We pay them monthly/semi-annually/annually for a service that they do their damnedest to avoid fulfilling.
If we don't use their service, they don't provide us with a refund at the end of the year, but if we are unlucky enough to need to use it, they are hesitant or outright refuse to provide it.
You want to know why "well-off" or "wealthy" people start go fund mes? As a doctor told us: I've seen wealthy people lose everything to medical debt just so they can have a chance of beating cancer or surviving trauma. Everything they built was taken from them just so they could keep living."
Your life shouldn't be ruined just so you can keep living it.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 12:18 am
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:28 am to magildachunks
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Somebody needs to sit them and Insurance companies in the same room and get everybody on the same page. We had a life threatening situation happen in December (SO almost died from complete organ failure due to pancreatitis from HELLP.) and even with great insurance plan, we were still stuck with $130,000 bill after insurance chose what they would and wouldn't pay for. First: what the hospital charged is damn near criminal, and I would also claim it to be unethical. Especially when you consider the fact that nothing the doctors ordered (treatment, medication, labs, etc.) was discussed with us, just ordered to perform and carried out. (It's not like we'd have said no. She was a few hours from dying). No costs were brought up, no multiple options offered for consideration. Basically no say in anything. That's how people get ruined financially for decades, if not for life. It's bullshite really. And it's not really the doctors' fault, they don't decide what it all costs. They are just concerned with treating the patient. Second: Insurance companies being allowed to pick and choose what they are going to pay for is bullshite. We pay them monthly/semi-annually/annually for a service that they do their damnedest to avoid fulfilling. If we don't use their service, they don't provide us with a refund at the end of the year, but if we are unlucky enough to need to use it, they are hesitant or outright refuse to provide it. You want to know why "well-off" or "wealthy" people start go fund mes? As a doctor told us: I've seen wealthy people lose everything to medical debt just so they can have a chance of beating cancer or surviving trauma. Everything they built was taken from them just so they could keep living." Your life shouldn't be ruined just so you can keep living it.
I’m sorry you had to go through that.
But many Americans do every day. It looks like this isn’t the politics board, so I’m in the clear, but: capitalism and free markets ain’t the problem, it’s the absence of it.
It’s the inability to compare prices across providers nationwide under a market type system. So when you go through that emergency where no one can say no, they gotcha’.
But so many livelihoods and lobbyists defend it, it will likely never be transformed in our lifetime.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 1:05 am
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:59 am to VooDude
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I would know coming from tech data science. It’s all about the industry you’re in. People in energy (o&g) employees make more. So do employees in most of tech and financial services companies.
If only the IRS felt I was broke compared to Chad in IT, that would be phenomenal .
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:12 am to Auburn80
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built in rich suburbs.
Even middle class moms have hypochondria, and are a great source of revenue. In North Baton Rouge, nobody is going to the hospital until their foot needs to come off or they get shot.
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national healthcare quicker than other issues.
No, that's shitty diet, and it doesn't have anything to do with organic produce (of which Walmart sells more than anyone else in the US.)
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