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re: Man who spent 36 years in prison for stealing $50 from a bakery is now set to be freed

Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:50 pm to
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I'm not so sure about that. Someone making $50,000 per year in 1980 lived like someone making $350,000 per year today? Pretty sure my dad made that and we didn't even have cable TV.
I think that was just a 'tree fiddy' joke. According to this inflation calculater it would be around $129.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48467 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:54 pm to
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I concede that it wasn't shoplifting,but life for $50 bucks & 3 strikes for a single previous break-in is complete bs

So we shouldn't lock up habitual offenders? What do we do? Keep letting them off so they can find new victims?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:57 pm to
Think of all the people he was unable to rob with an armed handgun over the course of 36 years
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:58 pm to
We definitely should. I'm not a fan of mandatory sentencing though. At the same time, I'm sure he was aware of the law at the time and still decided to shoot his shot so I don't feel all that bad for him. It's not like it's hard to not commit felonies.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119100 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:59 pm to
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The title makes me sympathetic.

The rest of the article makes me say, "oh well"


Yep
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8589 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:00 pm to
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since it was his fourth offense

frick him
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63940 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:10 pm to
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We need to enact transport to a penal colony instead of imprisonment for repeat offenders


Where do you think you are right now?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:15 pm to
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It's not like it's hard to not commit felonies.

I think the vast majority of people that have committed 3+ felonies will commit more. I'm sure there are exceptions but I bet it's 90+%. Not sure how I feel about the mandatory sentencing. I'm sure some people with fairly petty crimes have gotten caught up in that.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58058 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:21 pm to
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The title makes me sympathetic.

The rest of the article makes me say, "oh well"






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The underlying reason why Kennard, a man who now lives in the faith-based wing of Donaldson Correctional Facility, was sentenced to life without parole for the robbery of Highlands Bakery in 1983 was because he had been previously convicted of three non-violent property crimes.

In 1979, back when Kennard was 18 years old, he pleaded guilty to three counts of second-degree burglary in connection with a break-in at an unoccupied service station, his pleading documents state. For those three charges, all of which were tied to that one incident, he was sentenced to three years’ probation.



His crimes are not the kind of shite that should put a person behind bars for life. Ever. Being indifferent to how ridiculous the punishment was in cases like this is how we've ended up wit a massively fricked up prison system that is more interested in profits than actual rehabilitation.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58058 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:24 pm to
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So we shouldn't lock up habitual offenders? What do we do? Keep letting them off so they can find new victims?




Should he have gone to jail for a while? Sure. A life sentence for that? GTFO with that idiotic bullshite. The point of jail in the majority of crimes is SUPPOSED to be rehabilitation so the person can become a productive member of society.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3331 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:35 pm to
36 years in prison probably saved his life and someone else’s life...... with that record at 22, armed robbery was probably his next step.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11276 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:51 pm to
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Sentence may have been harsh, but he may also have continued armed robberies had he got off light.


Light would’ve been 10-20 years instead of life without parole

And by the 4 strike rule the knife didn’t much matter. In fact if it made it easier to get away he was incented to use it by the rule.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 6:01 pm
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 9:13 am to
The amount of money shouldn't determine the sentence. It should be the crime itself.

If that bakery had $1M on hand, he'd have stolen a million.

Same as murder vs attempted murder. Trying to kill someone and failing is the exact same as killing and succeeding.



This post was edited on 8/31/19 at 9:14 am
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19474 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 9:35 am to
Oh well
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 9:37 am to
That guy is going to go ape shite on society
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30553 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 9:54 am to
I like that law. If you’ve committed 4 offenses, it’s time to put you up permanently
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 9:59 am to
Even if Alvin is "reformed" now, how many more crimes would he have committed in those 36 years? And how many more did he commit prior to his 4th conviction without being caught?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:45 am to
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The average person has zero idea how much "time" a given "crime" carries.


And the average person doesn’t intentionally commit crime.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47547 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:59 am to
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I guess he never understood what life without parole meant
to be fair, neither does the system
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:00 am to
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I think that was just a 'tree fiddy' joke.


Jesus I'm dense.

Yeah, $129,000 sounds about right.
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