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re: Man stripped naked, beaten with poles after calling people 'N-word' in Miss. bar [VIDEO]
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:05 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:05 am to Pettifogger
It is a DANGEROUS road to go down to say speech justifies violence, because where it leads is people being killed over every slight offense or slight.
Which I just realized is how the hood works.
Which I just realized is how the hood works.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:35 am
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:05 am to JiminyCricket
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I'm kinda surprised at the people defending the people that attacked him.
He clearly went into the bar looking for a fight. He got one.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:06 am to HenryParsons
That bar sounds like a real pillar of the community. 30 police calls since it opened 3 months ago, operating without a license, people getting shot. 
Curly got what he should have expected.
Curly got what he should have expected.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:10 am to Dantheman504
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You didnt post this until after you essentially blamed the other group for using words as an excuse.... Which in return is giving the guy an excuse to walk in and bait those same people.
I said I'm not defending the use of slurs in my very first post in the thread.
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"How dare they try to fight him for baiting them with slurs" Really?
Uh, yeah. Because mean words aren't a legal justification for physical violence.
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You also said "I don't disagree and then went on about how the others groups reaction wasn't justified.
I said I don't disagree he was a huge d bag but legally, they had no right to assault him.
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Him dying and someone going to prison would be very unfortunate and I agree it would be a bad judgment call. But the guy put himself in that position purposely and found out.
Does this apply to rape too? If a girl wears a short skirt, is rape justifiable?
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Suicide by cop is bad and unfortunate does that mean cops shouldn't shoot that person if that person has a gun pointed at them?
El oh El at equating a person using a culturally unacceptable word and someone pointing a deadly weapon at officers.
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And you are completely ignoring the "he was aggressive" part of this article. The dude wanted a fight and got it. I don't feel bad at all.
Never said I felt bad or the guy, just that I don't think words justify violence.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:10 am to GRTiger
I’m sticks and stones words don’t hurt, but this guy FAFO. Just dumb. Let’s say you’re at any bar, whites blacks Latinos, whatever. You run in there and start aggressively calling everyone a dumbass fool. FU fool, FU dumbass. There is a 99.9% chance you’re getting a beatdown. You’re at a bar not some local Knights of Columbus Fall Festival or something. Know your environment.
Did took a beating. And deservedly so.
Did took a beating. And deservedly so.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:13 am
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:11 am to CueBacca
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He clearly went into the bar looking for a fight. He got one.
A guy comes into a bar and talks shite to you and you beat him up. He dies afterwards from a brain bleed. You go to court and argue that "he came in looking for a fight your honor, just look at the words he said!"
See how that bad boy legal defense works for you.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:11 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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I agree with you for the most part, but the word "****" is probably a white equivelant
I mean...I'm being facetious. If someone is being rude and antisocial (which is really what the forbidden word boils down to), sure, run them out and banish them.
But I have to know what **** is. Because none of the white slurs are banned here
Cracker
Honkey
Mayo monkey
Ofay
White boy
Whitebread
White trash
Huwite
YT
Snow monkey
Ice monkey
Colonizer
Kraut
Wop
Goombah
Limey
Paddy
Mick
Frog
Peckerwood
Etc
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:34 am
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:13 am to wareaglepete
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I’m sticks and stones words don’t hurt, but this guy FAFO. Just dumb. Let’s say you’re at any bar, whites blacks Latinos, whatever. You run in there and start aggressively calling everyone one a dumbass fool. FU fool, FU dumbass. There is a 99.9% chance you’re getting a beatdown. And deservedly so.
I don’t think that’s the case. I think many bars would have security that would take care of such situations.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:14 am to fr33manator
I like ice monkey.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:16 am to Dawgfanman
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I don’t think that’s the case. I think many bars would have security that would take care of such situations.
I’m in a band and am at honky tonks and night clubs a lot. I disagree. Security? If there is any, they are usually there after the fights have commenced.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:16 am to fr33manator
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Mayo monkey
Snow monkey
Ice monkey
I never heard these. They are pretty good.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:28 am to JiminyCricket
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Never said I felt bad or the guy, just that I don't think words justify violence.
We agree there. But you've spent more words talking about how their reaction is not justified > blaming the guy that started a situation that would have never happened otherwise.
I get what you are saying but your whole initial argument started with saying "blacks use slurs as an excuse for violence" so by default that was your initial take. The initial take was NOT "violence is bad, It was "course they took this opportunity".
What they did may have been excessive but frick that guy. That's it. This isn't the example to push a race issue against blacks when the white guy legit used racial instigation to cause the exact reaction he wanted.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:30 am to fr33manator
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fr33manator
Impressive list!
Doesn’t make me wanna whoop arse, though... try some more!
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:31 am to Keith13
Free speech. Club could ask him to leave. Dumb but doesn't justify severe beating.
Roles reversed it's be on the national news
Roles reversed it's be on the national news
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:35 am to fr33manator
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Cracker
Honkey
Mayo monkey
Ofay
White boy
Whitebread
White trash
Huwite
YT
Snow monkey
Ice monkey
Colonizer
Kraut
Wop
Goombah
Limey
Paddy
Mick
Frog
Etc
I definitely went to public school in middle Georgia, and I was impervious to cracker and honky and white boy and all of its combinations.
Around here, "white trash" is the only one that can work on white people, especially on white women. I don't know why, but "white trash" could possibly piss me off to in the right situation.
"White trash" is actually a banned phrase on Facebook. Probably a good idea lol.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:37 am to RelicBatches86
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Who's the guy that suggested taking off his clothes?
PDiddy cousin at the bar?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:40 am to HenryParsons
Nothing screams insecurity more than attacking someone all because he said a bad word.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:41 am to JiminyCricket
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Let's flesh out the redneck bar point a bit too. Let's say the story occurs like you outlined and a good ole boy clocks the big mouth. Let's say that big mouth hits his head on the concrete and dies of a brain bleed from the contact. You're now on trial for killing that guy and your defense is "well he was talking shite and earned his beating." Think that'll fly in court?
My post has nothing to do with self-defense, legality, etc.
To me, what happens to the guys who did it to him is a different discussion. They should likewise expect the natural consequences for their actions.
What I'm saying is that it's not a cultural exception to some general rule at play here - for most of human history, if you do what this guy did, you will experience a similar outcome.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:46 am to fr33manator
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It is a DANGEROUS road to go down to say speech justifies violence, because where it leads is people being killed over every slight offense or slight.
We're (or I'm) not talking about justifying it on a moral/ethical basis
I'm saying it has been the de facto state of nature forever.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:53 am to JiminyCricket
If it meets the requirements of Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, I am fine with it. This encounter probably did but the battery was disproportionate, and Chaplinsky would not be a defense for this level of battery IMO.
Outside the law, there is usually a tax on stupidity.
Outside the law, there is usually a tax on stupidity.
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