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re: Majority of single women are having trouble finding a partner who fits their standard
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:40 pm to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:40 pm to RaoulDuke504
women are the problem. their expectations have gotten out of control.
tired of it really
tired of it really
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:44 pm to LA Lightning
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OK, geniuses of the O-T. I will engage my daughter in a serious conversation about all discussed here and come back to you with a well-researched and documented explanation for the apparent social disfunction.
Meanwhile, make recommendations I can present to my daughter on how to find an acceptable man. One of my friends recently described her as "the perfect sugar-momma -- smart, beautiful and rich." So she has no interest in anyone else's money, or what kind of car you drive, or expensive dinners.
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Today, it’s all about the three 6’s:
6ft tall
6 pack abs
6 figure income
None of those three above are in her criteria. As an adolescent she did think that Chris Evans (Captain America) and Robert Pattinson were attractive, but also would have given Neville Longbottom a shot at the end of Harry Potter.
Being polite and courteous, and caring about other people and animals are desirable qualities. Knowledgeable, intelligent and literate also, which implies educated, but she might have an interest in someone with a vision of what they will be or maybe have in some measure already attained. She can fish and shoot a shotgun, but if your world revolves around hunting season and the ambition to have a bigger pickup truck, you should pass.
She has an IQ of approximately 180 (beyond anyone you have likely ever met), started attending classes at a university at age eleven, has three college degrees, and in a month will finish up her education to be Doctor Lightning. Despite the demands of her education she likes to cook for her friends, go to athletic contests and concerts, and read voraciously and often three books at once.
You are most likely to meet her working in a hospital or in a coffee shop working on her laptop. She is sociable and conversant but perhaps lacking in the ability to flirt. She will not signal you of any "interest". Don't be intimidated by her looks (no pics, though some might be found on the internet). Say hello and introduce yourself.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:55 pm to kingbob
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It’s just statistically more difficult and less likely now than it used to be
Any dude conducting statistical analysis on finding a woman is already behind the curve.
There are many opportunities to meet women EVERY single day. At the doctor’s office, the grocery, the gym, festivals, etc. Get off the damn dating apps.
Be a real man and go forth and conquer with some damn manly confidence, humor and kindness.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 8:09 am
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:58 pm to LouisianaLady
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what a 34 year old man would do or discuss with a 19 year old.
Besides the obvious joke about how I want my latte.
I'm in my 40s most of the people working for me are in their 20s.
Male or female it doesn't really matter, they are in their own social circle. I'll hang out with some of the guys in their mid 30s, but outside of work you don't want to be the old guy who's trying to be part of their culture.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:47 am to LouisianaLady
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That's strange to me, too. I think a height requirement is weird in general, but I can at least see why some super tall woman might feel weird about a shorter man. I have no clue why a short woman would limit her pool when she doesn't have to.
It’s because women think anyone over 5’10 is 6’2
Largely stems from two reasons
1. Because every 5’6-5’9 guy claims they are “5’10/5’11”
2. Everyone 6’+ girl says they are 5’10
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:01 am to SuperSaint
quote:My garbage man is smarter than that.
She has an IQ of approximately 180 (beyond anyone you have likely ever met),
CSB: My now-passed sister (RIP) no pics, lived high style in Old Metairie and her handyman was a tenured Tulane Liberal Arts professor.
He made his entire schedule T-Th and would handyman three days a week.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:15 am to donRANDOMnumbers
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their expectations have gotten out of control.
I don't think so. There are a lot of fat lazy unsuccessful unmotivated men out there. If you actually talk to women they just want a few things. Mainly tall, successful career and a big dick. That's it.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 8:15 am
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:52 am to RaoulDuke504
Look at the divorce court settlements and you'll understand why single women are having trouble finding a partner who fits their standard. Single men have gotten a lot wiser and financially smarter. As a consequence, they realize why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:09 am to ronricks
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Mainly tall, successful career and a big dick.
Any woman who NEEDS all these things has slept with so many dudes that shes unfit for marriage anyways. Theres always some dude out there thats taller, richer, and more endowed
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:14 am to donRANDOMnumbers
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women are the problem. their expectations have gotten out of control.
tired of it really
I think men and women are both to blame to varying degrees and honestly, it's not all that surprising. Western culture has rejected traditional roles and morality in favor of various form of hedonism. Is it all that surprising that, in a society that has put oneself squarely on the throne of their lives, people are struggling to make relationships work? Relationships that of course require patience, sacrifice, kindness, forgiveness and grace to function for any length of time.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:23 am to Narax
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I think you validated every Taylor Swift song.
I think one thing you failed to realize is that there are less whores than you imagine, they just are the exact opposite of the male.
They go though dozens of men a year, usually at the same time.
Men like that arent picking up fresh women, they are cycling the same women as everyone else.
Those women are typically damaged, guys can lie to themselves that they are studs who pick up new women...
But they are chumps.
Understood.
Good stuff.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:25 am to Narax
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Male or female it doesn't really matter, they are in their own social circle. I'll hang out with some of the guys in their mid 30s, but outside of work you don't want to be the old guy who's trying to be part of their culture.
Its simple, if you go on date with someone, whether shes 39 or 19, its because she has enough interest in you to be on the date. If you are trying to impress the girl, youve already lost. She should be trying to impress you.
Some of the women asked "what would you talk about" I recently went out with a 22 year old, just graduated and got a job at a local bank here. I asked her questions about her and let her talk. When she asked me questions about what I did, I responded with indirect nonsense or teased her...nobody wants to hear about buying property and building houses...she ate it up Id do the same thing with a 30 year old.
The bitter truth is that its less pleasant dating older girls. Theyve been through many guys, they arent near as playful, openminded, etc.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:32 am to JiminyCricket
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I think men and women are both to blame to varying degrees and honestly, it's not all that surprising. Western culture has rejected traditional roles and morality in favor of various form of hedonism. Is it all that surprising that, in a society that has put oneself squarely on the throne of their lives, people are struggling to make relationships work?
I agree with you here. I think people expect so much out of others without really looking at themselves and what they have to offer and bring to the relationship. Most people have placed themselves so high on a pedastal that they forget they have flaws and are not perfect beings themselves.
No one is going to check every ridiculous box you make, and if they do, you're just going to find something else that you don't like about them because you're being too picky.
There is nothing wrong with having some standard and non-negotiables, but I do agree both men and women are kind of at fault here. Plus people have really gotten lazy in the dating culture. For example, only free dates, people being like well I won't date this person because *gasp* they want to talk to me on the phone instead of texting me all day, etc. Its ridiculous.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:39 am to HoustonChick86
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I agree with you here. I think people expect so much out of others without really looking at themselves and what they have to offer and bring to the relationship. Most people have placed themselves so high on a pedastal that they forget they have flaws and are not perfect beings themselves.
No one is going to check every ridiculous box you make, and if they do, you're just going to find something else that you don't like about them because you're being too picky.
There is nothing wrong with having some standard and non-negotiables, but I do agree both men and women are kind of at fault here. Plus people have really gotten lazy in the dating culture. For example, only free dates, people being like well I won't date this person because *gasp* they want to talk to me on the phone instead of texting me all day, etc. Its ridiculous.
It's, unfortunately, such a thick onion with so many layers, I don't think one thing is the issue or one thing would solve it. Women with unrealistic expectations, men letting themselves go, women letting themselves go, workaholic men, low libido women, instagram culture and on and on and on.
The truth is that relationships take a lot of work if you want a good one and both need to be invested. One cannot pull the rope alone. It takes communication, patience, grace, alignment on core issues in the home, sex, shared values, etc. We've just kind of created a microwave dating culture and not too many are willing to do some work in the kitchen to prepare a meal. Young adults are experiencing loneliness at significant rates and it's only getting worse. We can say all we want that living for ourselves and having sex with random men and women whenever we want to get off makes us happy, but it seems it has only made us more lonely.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:46 am to JiminyCricket
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I think men and women are both to blame to varying degrees and honestly, it's not all that surprising. Western culture has rejected traditional roles and morality in favor of various form of hedonism. Is it all that surprising that, in a society that has put oneself squarely on the throne of their lives, people are struggling to make relationships work? Relationships that of course require patience, sacrifice, kindness, forgiveness and grace to function for any length of time.
for all the social progress women have made, including going to college more than men, they haven't really come down on what is needed to be considered a marriageable man. Generally speaking even high earning women want a dude that is pulling down more than her.
I feel for zoomer dudes in their 20s trying to get their shite together. Unless you have a really high-paying gig or generous parents, buying a house is going to be very hard.
if one of you money board people can point me in the direction of a publically traded IVF company, I would really appreciate it.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:47 am to donRANDOMnumbers
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This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:52 am to Dire Wolf
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for all the social progress women have made, including going to college more than men, they haven't really come down on what is needed to be considered a marriageable man. Generally speaking even high earning women want a dude that is pulling down more than her.
It makes sense if you think about it. We have told women the things they need to strive for and basically none of them are actually helpful to women. Have lots of sex, it'll empower you. Embrace your boss lady era, you don't need a family. Don't have kids, it'll ruin your life. Date around. Men do it, why shouldn't you?
Subsequently, women have taken to the worst parts of "manhood" and tried to out-men men and what do you know, they're lonelier and more depressed than ever. Women have been lied to so much by this culture but really, so have men. The allure of easy sex and low relationship effort is still appealing to folks, even if they really don't know what they're asking for.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:26 am to scottydoesntknow
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Its simple, if you go on date with someone, whether shes 39 or 19, its because she has enough interest in you to be on the date.
One issue is that girls go on dates now for the experience and not necessarily interest. It is no different than being on dating sites for "validation". They will go on a date and compare the date to another date/ experience instead of thinking deeply about that person or a 2nd date.
Its why less men are dating. They don't want to compete in a losing competition and they don't want to spend money just for a small chance the woman is actually interested or gives you the time of day.
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If you are trying to impress the girl, youve already lost. She should be trying to impress you
Women go on dates because they have the options. Dates no longer = complete interest. You still have to impress/ compete, that's the issue.
The group of guys that have women "trying to impress them" aren't the ones going on dates. They already have girls on call for hookups and don't have to put much effort in.
For example you can have a less attractive guy go on a date, show real interest, be respectful, and be viewed as weird or too nice.
Then you have a guy they are attracted to that can walk up and say "nice tits" and that's it.
Modern women already know who they are attracted to and don't deviate much from that or give many others a serious chance (And they don't have to with countless options).
The double standard of "attractive" guys vs "unattractive guys" is wild.
You have good dudes getting called creeps just for being bad at flirting and "attractive guys" that date rape girls and get a pass because they are attractive.
Good dudes are simply losing respect for these women and at 0 cost because they don't have any respect for that same group of guys.
Certain guys are praised for being womanizers and other guys are frowned upon for having the audacity to think they can speak to certain women.
Guys aren't "giving up" they are respecting themselves by choosing not to spend money and chase women that legit see them as "undesirable"
You have more non creeps getting called creeps than actual creeps. Meanwhile those same women will call a guy a creep while they sell feet pics to weirdos for money giving them a false sense of confidence that allows them to feel good about calling more normal guys creeps.
The mental gymnastics and lack of self awareness is absolutely insane.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:42 am to scottydoesntknow
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if you go on date with someone, whether shes 39 or 19, its because she has enough interest in you to be on the date.
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she asked me questions about what I did, I responded with indirect nonsense or teased her
So this girl has enough interest in you to go out on a date, then when she asks more about you to learn more you feed her made up bullshite for some reason. Sounds like a winning strategy!
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:44 am to pelicanpride
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So what do you consider showing “female interest”?
Every woman has her own way of “dropping the handkerchief”. She knows what she’s doing, and so does he, unless he’s just really dense.
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I thought he was cute, so I went.
You're kind of making my point for me here. If you didn't find him attractive, you probably wouldn’t have went.
All dating depends completely on female attraction to a man. No attraction, no date, no matter what his other qualities are. If she doesnt feel it, then he’s wasting his time.
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