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re: Major overreaction by the government
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:29 am to stelly1025
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:29 am to stelly1025
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Although it is a bit over reactionary people are not going to be ruined by this
Of course they are. It's already happening.
Using data from a couple of years back, roughly 3/5 of Americans have less than $1000 saved for an emergency.
"Missing a paycheck" would constitute an emergency for those folks requiring selling something or incurring more debt. What is "missing 3 paychecks" going to do? Or 6? Or 10?
A lot of those jobs lost will be permanent job losses - certainly for a year or more.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:43 am to fitz
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So you don't trust the experts who have devoted their lives to studying infectious diseases. Who do you trust then?
These “experts” have devoted their lives to sky screaming at trump and climate change. Why would a normal red blooded American listen to a little wuss nerd that tells them not to go to work and get drunk with their podnuhs?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:45 am to lsut2005
I actually had someone just now tell me if this saves one life it will be worth it.
The hell it won’t.
The hell it won’t.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:50 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Gimme a fricking break. I have a couple of friends on the front line of this shite and they feel like this is an overreaction.
What do they do on these front lines? Because I do as well. I also work in risk management and insurance within the healthcare field and let me tell you, my clients don’t see it the way you do. They are concerned their systems are going to be overwhelmed. Some of them already are.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:53 am to cas4t
Ditto.
Wife is a doctor. Bunch of physician friends. One studying infectious disease at a top 3 university.
They definitely don’t see it the way he does.
Wife is a doctor. Bunch of physician friends. One studying infectious disease at a top 3 university.
They definitely don’t see it the way he does.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:59 am to cas4t
ER nurse, paramedic, and pharma sales
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:59 am to fitz
Yea I deal with some of the largest health systems and physician groups in the country, and they are....alarmed.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:03 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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ER nurse, paramedic, and pharma sales
The only credible one of these would be the ER nurse. And they have, to put it bluntly, seen some shite. Not surprised he or she is a bit of a hard arse.
I deal with risk managers and chief medical officers, among others. everyone I’ve encountered are of the line of thinking that there is no way to know is this is an overreaction, ever. But an under reaction would be very apparent. This was quoted somewhere recently and mentioned by more than one of my clients. I tend to agree.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:04 am to cas4t
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there is no way to know is this is an overreaction, ever. But an under reaction would be very apparent.
this rhetoric is basically tails i win, heads you lose
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
IF, IIFFF it gets as bad as feared, we're going to lose either way. The question is do we pay now or later. And which one is going to cost more?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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in my non-expert guess? yes
We'll see I guess. Goldman agrees with me.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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this rhetoric is basically tails i win, heads you lose
Not really
It’s just a CYA, in the event of the worst case scenario. Which is more than folks dying. As you know, it’s lawsuits and reputational damage. A health system can’t afford to be on the wrong side of history on this.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:08 am to cas4t
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It’s just a CYA, in the event of the worst case scenario. Which is more than folks dying. As you know, it’s lawsuits and reputational damage. A health system can’t afford to be on the wrong side of history on this.
If it’s really THIS, that’s actually worse with regard to these actions being taken.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:09 am to Y.A. Tittle
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If it’s really THIS, that’s actually worse with regard to these actions being taken.
Agreed.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:12 am to cas4t
I disagree. The ambulance rider is hands on with it as well and the sales guy is involved with selling test kit stuff. When the paramedic tells me it's time to panic I will panic.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:12 am to Y.A. Tittle
Taking every precaution necessary to ensure patient safety and shielding yourself from litigation is a bad thing? Explain?
CYA isnt...always a bad thing. In this country it is the norm. And it doesn’t always equate to doing shady things. In this case, it’s quite the opposite.
CYA isnt...always a bad thing. In this country it is the norm. And it doesn’t always equate to doing shady things. In this case, it’s quite the opposite.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:14 am to stelly1025
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Although it is a bit over reactionary people are not going to be ruined by this
My neighbor manages several hotels in the Arlington-Crystal City, Virginia area and she is already being ruined by this. Hotels are at 30% occupancy and she just had to lay off quite a few people on Friday as a result of the lack of income.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:14 am to cas4t
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Taking every precaution necessary to ensure patient safety and shielding yourself from litigation is a bad thing? Explain?
How do you define "necessary"? You seem to think that whatever action happens to be taken is, ipso facto, necessary.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:15 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The ambulance rider is hands on with it as well
Your EMT knows dogshit about a pandemic.
And pharma reps know next to nothing about patient safety in a health system. They know the drugs they are selling, and that’s where it ends. No shade, that’s the job. But they have absolutely no clue.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:16 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:16 am to cas4t
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CYA isnt...always a bad thing.
I didn’t say that, but if that’s all this is, I would argue IN THIS INSTANCE it seems it maybe would be. I REALLY HOPE there is more to this than that.
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