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re: Major overreaction by the government
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:46 pm to Delacroix22
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:46 pm to Delacroix22
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Making sacrifices to help to ensure the well being of your neighbors and countrymen isn't socialism or communism
At this level? It is.
This is like asking Americans to give up cars because of auto deaths, which we're about 100/day, give or take.
If you say giving up cars is an overreaction, your entire post is moot.
If you agree it isn't an overreaction, then how do you get to work (before the Wuhan Flu ended employment as we know it in the U.S.)?
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:46 pm to Kimist
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You'd rather it be the other way around?
Decisions like these have been made throughout the course of human history. Just look at WWII alone.
We are jeopardizing an entire generation of people to try to save a handful. It's a tough call. I usually lean forward letting nature take its course though. Because usually the price paid up front will be steep, but less painful in the end than some governmental bumbling to attempt and maintain status quo.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Recessions cause death, too
Do you believe that demand for goods and services will be lower long term after this passes?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:50 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Decisions like these have been made throughout the course of human history. Just look at WWII alone.
We are jeopardizing an entire generation of people to try to save a handful. It's a tough call. I usually lean forward letting nature take its course though. Because usually the price paid up front will be steep, but less painful in the end than some governmental bumbling to attempt and maintain status quo.
The problem is this: the ones in charge are the generation at risk, so they are the ones putting this shite in place.
Why are they in charge?
Because people think if you are older, you must know better.
Also: the generation in power goes out and votes at an extremely higher rate than younger generations. As is always the case.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
The people who have large reserves will crush it with all the buy low opportunities
Our macro numbers may bounce back but it will mean an even more concentrated wealth paradigm
Lots of micro pain will fund those opportunities and that gap
Our macro numbers may bounce back but it will mean an even more concentrated wealth paradigm
Lots of micro pain will fund those opportunities and that gap
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:53 pm to magildachunks
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The problem is this: the ones in charge are the generation at risk, so they are the ones putting this shite in place.
Yeah, that's always the case too.
And SFP's point about further concentrating wealth and resources is very valid as well.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:54 pm to Smiling Politely
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Thank you so much for your keen insights into global pandemics.
Yep, the similarities to H1N1 are striking, glad we're tanking the economy to be safe.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
But will there be a recession that extends beyond this period of time.
There's a lot of fear in the markets. Things will rocket up again as soon as the public believes this is behind us. The oil price war may prevent us from getting back to where we were initially, but the market is reacting HARD to this covid crisis. Do you believe that the market and general demand for goods and services will be less after this thing passes?
There's a lot of fear in the markets. Things will rocket up again as soon as the public believes this is behind us. The oil price war may prevent us from getting back to where we were initially, but the market is reacting HARD to this covid crisis. Do you believe that the market and general demand for goods and services will be less after this thing passes?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:13 pm to OweO
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Man frick you... You sound like a spoiled bitch.
The freedoms that are given away so easily by people like you were paid for with the lives of your ancestors.
"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:51 pm to Ace Midnight
Y'all are acting like if they didn't shut things down then life would just continue as normal. The reality of the disease is going to assert itself regardless of what action we take. All we can try to control is how bad it's going to be. Look at what's happening in Italy right now. You think that could be happening here and everyone would just go about their business as usual? Everyone just ignores the collapse of our hospitals and medical staff and the economy hums along like normal? Get real.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:58 pm to AndyCBR
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"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
By this logic, those ancestors never would have fought for anything other than themselves. There's no stronger way to give up your essential liberty than joined the military and dying.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:46 am to lsut2005
I don’t think you understand OP, this could literally destroy Civilization as we know it if it’s gets out of hand. They will do what they need to do to protect the government like always. If that cost 1 million, 100 million dead and/or bankrupts half the Country so be it, they will not flinch
Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:03 am to lsut2005
Although it is a bit over reactionary people are not going to be ruined by this and stop being an over dramatic pussy. Yeah businesses will feel some pain and the markets will take a hit ,but we will be back soon enough. People can't handle change and adapt anymore.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:10 am to stelly1025
This is nothing but a ploy by Generation X to kill the Boomers and enslave the Millennials.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:20 am to Dominate308
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This is nothing but a ploy by Generation X to kill the Boomers and enslave the Millennials.
frick. They're onto us.
Oh well. Whatever. Nevermind.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:23 am to TigerstuckinMS
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Oh well. Whatever. Nevermind.
Come, as you are, doused in mud, soaked in bleach, as I waaaaaaaannnnttt you to be
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:31 am to EarlyCuyler3
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This is like asking Americans to give up cars because of auto deaths, which we're about 100/day, give or take.
The difference is that a car is not going to come into contact with hundreds of other cars a day with the potential to cause each of them to have a FATAL accident in two weeks.
quote:you are failing to remember that during WWII, there were curfews, rationing, liberties given up for the greater good and even Marshall law.
Decisions like these have been made throughout the course of human history. Just look at WWII alone.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:35 am to BruslyTiger
While that is true, I was referring more to deciding to nuke Japan and carpet bomb. Things like that
What we're deciding to do here is more akin to what people routinely lambast Europe for in placating Hitler for years instead of ripping the bandaid off and dealing with it quickly. Too many mixed metaphors here
What we're deciding to do here is more akin to what people routinely lambast Europe for in placating Hitler for years instead of ripping the bandaid off and dealing with it quickly. Too many mixed metaphors here
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:36 am to BruslyTiger
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The difference is that a car is not going to come into contact with hundreds of other cars a day with the potential to cause each of them to have a FATAL accident in two weeks.
What's the fatality rate for COVID-19?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:46 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Depending on the area of the world, and I would have to imagine, the quality and availability of healthcare, 0.8-4.2% from the CDC's website.
What's the fatality rate for COVID-19?
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