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re: Macklemore's new song White Privilege II just released

Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:45 am to
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:45 am to
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It's little more than a convenient excuse for failure and a means to minimize others' accomplishments.


but accomplishments are white privilege doe
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4557 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:48 am to
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Politics or no, he's a pretty damned good artist.


Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:50 am to
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Agree to disagree.
I'll take it. Believe me I was skeptical when I heard about a white kid from Seattle blowing up the rap game. Look up those songs and let me know what you think.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23041 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:50 am to
I agree, the heist was a really good album. This new crap he's putting out is driving me away from him though
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:52 am to
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Here's the crux of the matter. Anytime someone discusses this it always turns into some broad and vague bullshite about how someone is made to feel. There's no tangible evidence of privilege so we're left to believe it exists because people tell us that they feel a certain way.

The whole idea is silly, poorly defined problem with no solution offered.

Of course there's tangible evidence that privilege exists. I don't really want to get deep into it because it's a chore, but I'll give a quick example. Levittown, NY was a post-WWII planned community and was racially segregated as a matter of public policy (its segregation was rubber stamped by the Federal Housing Authority). White veterans were able to buy in Levittown, but black veterans were not. Buyers had to sign agreements saying they wouldn't sell or rent to non-whites.

Houses in Levittown were quite cheap, but black people weren't permitted to enjoy the advantage of buying there. Families who bought in Levittown in the 1940s and 50s greatly benefited as property values increased, and were able to borrow against their homes to start businesses and exercise greater economic freedom in general. They've done very well.

But black families were excluded from this advantage, and that has lasting effects on their families. Property gets handed down, and businesses grow over time. Black families did not have access to the kinds of economic opportunities that were granted to white families in Levittown.

And this is not a phenomenon that existed only in Levittown. This kind of segregated partitioning of economic opportunity was widespread in the US, and its effects can last for generations, precisely because wealth and opportunity is often passed down from one generation to another.

So no, it's not just a matter of "feeling". The legacy of institutionalized racism still lingers today.

I don't believe in affirmative action or reparations or anything like that. I don't think we should feel guilty if we didn't do anything to contribute to these problems. But I don't see why it's such a problem for some people to acknowledge that privilege exists. Saying that "it doesn't do anything useful" is a complete cop out. If it exists, just acknowledge it. You don't have to run around shouting about it, but don't act so surprised or outraged when other people talk about it.

edit: I said I wasn't going to get deep into it and I kind of did. I'll let this post stand as my final one in this thread because I don't want to spend all day posting about this.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 11:53 am
Posted by Flipadelphia
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:54 am to
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:09 pm to
Ok. I acknowledge it.


Now what?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:11 pm to
[quote]There's no tangible evidence of privilege /quote]

There absolutely is tangible scientific evidence of white privilege but I cannot elaborate due to the requests of the admins so I will leave it up to someone else.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39015 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:13 pm to
So he uses his white privilege to pander to the idiot masses? Yea...that guys a piece of shite and I'm not clicking on that.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:14 pm to
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absolutely is tangible scientific evidence of white privilege but I cannot elaborate due to the requests of the admins so I will leave it up to someone else.



Let me guess...IQ differential?
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:15 pm to
Mackelmore sucks so much
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:27 pm to
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Let me guess...IQ differential?



Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35512 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 2:47 pm to
Wow, after watching that Panthers rap Larry posted earlier I would have bet 10 million dollars that would be the worst song I would hear today.

I would have lost.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60718 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Macklemore uses his white privilege to cater to all the suburban white kids
Suburban white kids don't listen to Macklemore. They listen to this:

Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
10283 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:00 pm to
His entire career is an example of white privelage.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60718 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:02 pm to
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Politics or no, he's a pretty damned good artist.
He's a terrible rapper.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:03 pm to
I figured Macklemore mostly appealed to Ellen viewers who want to seem hip to their 5th grader.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
10283 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:03 pm to
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He's a terrible rapper.

But he's white which offsets being a terrible rapper....White Privilege.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13493 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:05 pm to
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Ok. I acknowledge it.


Now what?
Nothing, that's it.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:06 pm to
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No fricks given
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