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re: Lufthansa sues a passenger who missed second leg of flight for “hidden ticketing”

Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51408 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:26 pm to
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Lufthansa can get fricked

Ehhhhhhhh. To me, they're good people.

These bastards lost my luggage on a Madrid - Tehran flight and reimbursed me the equivalent of USD 1700.00, and also returned my luggage safe and sound from Manchester (England) 50 days later.

Double win.

Triple, actually, as I had a beard and looked very burgeouise to all my Iranian interlocutors.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:27 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:41 pm to
The end result of this lawsuit will be more people skipping legs and costing Lufthansa more money, although this has been going on forever
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:51 pm to
As a passenger skipping the second leg of a flight, a few bad things can happen:

1) The airline can screw you of you're part of their frequent flyer plan.

2) The airline can ban you if you really piss them off.

3) You can be forced to buy a "same day" fare ticket, if caught.

And my personal favorite,
4) Have you listed on their passenger manifest if the plane crashes. That could be a problem. (Does anyone remember poor Doc Daneeka in Catch-22?)

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103792 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:55 pm to
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So he paid for his ticket, didn't use one leg of the flight, and purchased a separate ticket and they are suing him?


I mean really. They made more off the guy. Give the seat to a standby passenger you get to sell it twice
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39477 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:57 pm to
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Have you listed on their passenger manifest if the plane crashes. That could be a problem. (Does anyone remember poor Doc Daneeka in Catch-22?)


Sounds like a good way to start a new life to me
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45419 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:01 pm to
I have no clue what that means.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

you have a connection because you chime in on every airline/airport related thread


I've spent the better part of the last decade at some status level on multiple airlines. I enjoy air travel and have learned the rules in order to make sure I receive maximum benefit from my travel and limit the miserable experiences.

For instance, today I was delayed and had to fly out of an alternate airport to make my connection. I asked the agent for the reason for the delay. Her response was "weather". Because I've looked into this, weather is not the entirety of the explanation and they are required to specify further. The original delay was due to late crew arrival (presumably because of weather)...however, that is the airline's fault...not an act of God.

So I will be refunded for my expenses to travel from the alternate airport.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6822 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:04 pm to
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Have you listed on their passenger manifest if the plane crashes. That could be a problem.


In today's electronic world you're not on the manifest unless your boarding pass for that flight is scanned.
Posted by akimoto
Thibodaux
Member since Jun 2010
633 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:06 pm to
I did something similar to this for our honeymoon. I booked flights and hotel in Thailand, but we stayed at relatives houses. I chose the cheapest hotel and never checked in. I think I saved about $1000 by bundling our flight and hotel versus just booking our flights.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:15 pm to
If one does this habitually , I can see getting put on the shite list, but one could easily fake an illness every now and then.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138830 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:21 pm to
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For instance, today I was delayed and had to fly out of an alternate airport to make my connection. I asked the agent for the reason for the delay. Her response was "weather". Because I've looked into this, weather is not the entirety of the explanation and they are required to specify further. The original delay was due to late crew arrival (presumably because of weather)...however, that is the airline's fault...not an act of God.

So I will be refunded for my expenses to travel from the alternate airport.


Mark Cuban Write That Down Gif
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18918 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:28 pm to
Great airline
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:36 pm to
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I have no clue what that means


A WWII B-25 bombardier named Joseph Heller wrote a book titled Catch-22. It has been in print over 50 years, sold over 10 million copies and made into a movie in 1970. It is widely considered to be among the most influential English language novels of the 20th century.

Set in WWII, the character Doc Daneeka is a flight surgeon who is afraid to fly. He has his pilot friends add him to their manifests so he can accumulate the necessary flight hours to collect his monthly flight pay without actually having to fly.

His plan goes well until he is listed on the manifest of a plane that crashes and burns with no survivors. He is very much alive, because he wasn't actually on the plane, but Army Air Forces declare him dead. He stops receiving his pay. His wife collects on his life insurance policies and moves back to her family. His children all think he's dead. Meanwhile, he's stuck at a military base on an island off the coast of Italy with no hope of ever convincing the military buraucracy that he is indeed alive.

It's a bizarre, but funny book. Everyone should read it.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:48 pm to
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you're not on the manifest unless your boarding pass for that flight is scanned


I understand. If you're booked on a connecting flight, you're correct, you won't be on the manifest for 2nd leg. If you're on a direct flight with an intermediate stopover, you will remain on the manifest through your scheduled destination.

That's part of what all the counting is about on Southwest. Airlines with assigned seats can just look to see who is missing by the empty but assigned seats. Southwest has to do a headcount to determine if they're missing a passenger.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:04 pm to
Do you have any links to articles breaking down these type of things the avg traveler doesnt know? Like good ones not common sense stuff that come up in first few pages of google searches. Thx
Posted by muncy
Member since Sep 2018
449 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:19 pm to
I would love to get more of these tips/tricks

Edit: I second TOSOV’s request
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 11:20 pm
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2402 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:36 pm to
Last time I tried purchase back-to-back tickets Delta's online ticketing was smart enough to catch it and wouldn't sell me the second ticket because of the overlapping itineraries.


Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:48 pm to
BASTARDS!!!
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:26 am to
quote:

Do you have any links to articles breaking down these type of things the avg traveler doesnt know? Like good ones not common sense stuff that come up in first few pages of google searches. Thx


I wish I would write down stuff. But it’s part the airline nerd in me and part reading through hundreds of threads on FlyerTalk or articles on The Points Guy, etc.

The general thing is to politely ask questions and come into any contact with airline employees with options. They’ve continually become more empowered to make decisions on their own vs. following “rules” per-se.
Posted by dawgsjlw
shite hole with your momma
Member since Sep 2014
826 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:52 am to
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What are Lufthansa's damages here? It seems they got paid for both tickets. Regardless if there was an empty seat on the last leg, they still got paid as if there was a body in the seat.
Shows how fricking greedy those german figs are.
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