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re: Lt. Gov. Billy Nungesser letter on cancellation of $3 billion Mid-Barataria Diversion
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:11 pm to RGT
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:11 pm to RGT
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We the public are never fully educated or informed on the true details of these projects.Im one not educated enough to be for or against.
That’s fair
But we have plenty of educated people all over the world who are for this
Yet oyster fishermen with a 5th grade education are against it
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:14 pm to Tarps99
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Also by canceling it, there is 2.3 billion dollars to spend on other projects and not just this one
If the trust gives it to us
Why would they?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:19 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Honestly the ACOE should be the one heading up and paying for all these projects sense it is the levees they put in place that are causing the issues.
The ACOE is one of the main opposers of diversion projects. When you divert the river, flow in the channel reduces, dropping its load (sediment), thus causing more dredging required for ship traffic.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:44 am to DMAN1968
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Simple. They are going to want us to pay to "relocate" the few folks left...a hefty sum I'm sure.
quote: The Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw tribe on Isle de Jean Charles, Louisiana, is relocating due to severe coastal erosion and rising sea levels. This relocation is the first of its kind, with the tribe receiving federal funding to move to a new, safer location.
And that relocation has been shite show too.
Residents are complaining about their new homes costing too much to maintain with the cost of insurance and property taxes much higher than they anticipated. Some don’t even like the homes or they are having issues with the construction.
It was so bad some are looking to move back home.
That is what happens when government gets involved. They make these big bold claims and cannot keep their stated goals. Or people want to live cheaply and do not realize the consequences of moving to a new home with better amenities.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 6:54 am
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:05 am to LSUFanHouston
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But we have plenty of educated people all over the world who are for this
Yet oyster fishermen with a 5th grade education are against it
Maybe but the oystermen actually live here
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Also, I've never heard anyone say the loss of a species in a specific area is an extinction.
Nungesser plays a dumb politician but I think he knows the difference, he’s just playing it up for people who don’t.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 3:09 am
Posted on 7/22/25 at 6:17 am to Loup
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did they actually all die or just swim to saltier water?
Dumb ones died, smart ones moved on. Sounds like a metaphor for Louisiana
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:44 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Probably more than a few civil and environmental engineers working for various consulting firms too.
That is a fact.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:00 am to ragincajun03
So it's killing the porpoises? No. They are just moving to different areas. They go were the food is.
So the water is too polluted to release into the marsh? The marsh south of Venice is doing pretty good and that state reef produces a lot of oysters.
Lies lies lies lies
So the water is too polluted to release into the marsh? The marsh south of Venice is doing pretty good and that state reef produces a lot of oysters.
Lies lies lies lies
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 8:01 am
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:01 am to ragincajun03
To clarify a few things brought up here:
I am not a fan of JBE - never had been. But he was not profiting from this project. And - he made sure that the Louisiana taxpayers were on the hook for zero dollars of this. The costs did balloon between the time frames of initial and secondary bidding and acceptance and approval by the BP trust. JBE did not green light the project until the prople controlling the money said that they would pay for the whole thing.
Also - to the people that keep saying that we now have 2.3 or however much billion dollars to spend on other things. NO WE DO NOT - it is not the state's money. It is BP oil spill money that is controlled by a trust. JBE was gifted what turned out to be a 3 billion dollar construction project and now Landry has declined it after 600 million has been spent there. The BP trust gave the state money for this specific project. Not only does the state not have the remaining 2.4 billion allocated for this, the state might be on the hook for the 600 million already spent, plus lawsuits for multiple contractors sitting on their asses down there for the last year and a half not making the money that they were supposed to be making. Along with suppliers that allocated resources and equipment and materials for this specific project that have been sitting on hold for the last year and a half.
I am not a fan of JBE - never had been. But he was not profiting from this project. And - he made sure that the Louisiana taxpayers were on the hook for zero dollars of this. The costs did balloon between the time frames of initial and secondary bidding and acceptance and approval by the BP trust. JBE did not green light the project until the prople controlling the money said that they would pay for the whole thing.
Also - to the people that keep saying that we now have 2.3 or however much billion dollars to spend on other things. NO WE DO NOT - it is not the state's money. It is BP oil spill money that is controlled by a trust. JBE was gifted what turned out to be a 3 billion dollar construction project and now Landry has declined it after 600 million has been spent there. The BP trust gave the state money for this specific project. Not only does the state not have the remaining 2.4 billion allocated for this, the state might be on the hook for the 600 million already spent, plus lawsuits for multiple contractors sitting on their asses down there for the last year and a half not making the money that they were supposed to be making. Along with suppliers that allocated resources and equipment and materials for this specific project that have been sitting on hold for the last year and a half.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:03 am to ragincajun03
I hate to say it but elections have consequences. As long as LA keeps voting in idiots and crooks nothing will change. I feel for the minority of voters that have to put up with it.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:40 am to chalmetteowl
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Maybe but the oystermen actually live here
Not for much longer…
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:47 am to ragincajun03
I knew that reading this was just gonna make me angry but I read it anyway.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:47 am to Rocklicker
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Honestly the ACOE should be the one heading up and paying for all these projects
This is a myth that needs to be dispelled. The ACOE’s main mission is ensuring the navigability of the Mississippi River. Coastal restoration is NOT a priority for them. It’s a side activity, if that.
If they have to choose one over the other, they will always choose the river over the coast.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:55 am to ragincajun03
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At that time, the project was projected to cost $250 million. Today, the price tag has ballooned to more than $3 billion
How can you underestimate by 1200%? Who did that estimate? Call them out. Embarrass them. Make sure they never do another study for any Louisiana project again.
And, frick the dolphins. What about the humans, deer, livestock, and all the animals that used to be there, but are now “extinct” from the area. What a dumb assed statement.
Louisiana continues to be a backwards shitshow and we continue to elect slimy politicians who act in their bank accounts’ best interest.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:56 am to slidingstop
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Gordy Dove's Terrebonne levee system has had terrible effects on the marsh below
link?
Bitch I live down there on weekends and have a marsh camp. I have literally watched the land disappear, the water rise, and the habitat lost. here's your link:
Posted on 7/22/25 at 9:37 am to Motorboat
Do we feel warm and fuzzy about these guys making decisions that will affect Louisianians for generations?
I mean their argument is: we need to let saltwater intrusion happen so that we can cultivate oysters, catch shrimp, and look at dolphins.
Industries that pull in less revenue than what was lost when we decreased the oil severance tax rate.
What are we doing?
Posted on 7/22/25 at 9:46 am to Ingeniero
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Let’s be clear: this project proposes to dump polluted river water into a delicate estuary system that simply cannot handle it.
The River being cut off from the marshes is one of the biggest reasons they’re eroding away in the first place.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 9:52 am to Baers Foot
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What are we doing?
Protectionism. What Louisiana is famous for. From florists to insurance, we protect big business (donors) all day long. The people get shite on.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 9:53 am to Loup
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shows devastating consequences for our dolphin population—likely pushing them to extinction in Barataria Bay. How can we call this “restoration” when we’re destroying an entire species in the process?
Please tell me he didn’t actually write this.
This sounds like someone with an I.Q. of 75 and a 4th-grade education wrote it.
The dolphins will simply move elsewhere where the water is a little saltier.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 9:58 am
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:22 am to KamaCausey_LSU
Actually….Louisiana does have a (freshwater) water quality standard for ammonia. Ask all the small municipalities in the middle of the state, it’s going to cost them bigly, unless DEQ figures out a way to walk that back.
Back to OP, once again, a commercial fishing industry that has few jobs but enough money to pay off crooks like Billy Boy are controlling decisions that are adverse to the greater good.
We are such a Banana Republic. And not destined to ever improve.
Back to OP, once again, a commercial fishing industry that has few jobs but enough money to pay off crooks like Billy Boy are controlling decisions that are adverse to the greater good.
We are such a Banana Republic. And not destined to ever improve.
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