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re: LSU Removes Requirement That The Chief of Police Have a College Degree
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:06 pm to ThatMakesSense
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:06 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Highway Patrolman should have civil engineering degrees in order to better understand how a road system works.
That is not at all similar. Universities are a different animal from writing tickets as highway patrol, especially with the concentration of radicals they attract in today's America. Having firsthand experience on the student side of the equation would likely help a shitload.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 4:06 pm
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:08 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:A college degree is not the assurance you’re looking for.
I'd like to have some assurance that the baw leading the police force isn't a complete dumbass who stumbled into police work 30 years ago because he had nothing else going for him.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:10 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I'd like to have some assurance that the baw leading the police force isn't a complete dumbass who stumbled into police work 30 years ago because he had nothing else going for him.
Would you rather 30 years of experience in military/law enforcement or an engineering degree from a mid-tier state school?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:10 pm to TigersSEC2010
I was making fun of you because of this..
How would it help? You're either breaking the law or you're not.
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Having firsthand experience on the student side of the equation would likely help a shitload.
How would it help? You're either breaking the law or you're not.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:11 pm to SabiDojo
Neither
I'd rather a binary gender fluid queer woman of color who will speak truth to power and bring the police department equity
I'd rather a binary gender fluid queer woman of color who will speak truth to power and bring the police department equity
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:11 pm to NIH
Now THAT'S #Woke.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:13 pm to Carson123987
Except the guy with a Finance degree has an easier time finding a job right now that the petroleum engineer.
I get your point, there are a lot of degrees that don't care a ton of economic value right now. I wouldn't go as far as to say they are worthless considering a four year degree is a must have for most jobs today. However, there are a few non-stem majors that do just fine for themselves. Accounting, finance, statistics, economics, architecture just to name a few.
I get your point, there are a lot of degrees that don't care a ton of economic value right now. I wouldn't go as far as to say they are worthless considering a four year degree is a must have for most jobs today. However, there are a few non-stem majors that do just fine for themselves. Accounting, finance, statistics, economics, architecture just to name a few.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:14 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
You do realize M stands for math, right?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:14 pm to SabiDojo
How bout someone with a degree and the required experience. I know that’s a really hard concept to wrap your head around
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:17 pm to TheIndulger
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That’s pretty poor logic. If they’re so easy to get, it looks extra bad to not have one
hence the diploma reference. it's just something you need to have at this point - not something critical to your career success.
no reason a police chief needs a diploma. i'd rather him be a naturally smart dude with years of experience
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:17 pm to TheIndulger
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How bout someone with a degree and the required experience.
Would a degree make someone with 7 years experience more qualified than someone with 15 years experience and no degree?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:20 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Accounting, finance, statistics, economics, architecture just to name a few.
accounting is fine because it teaches you in-demand skills. finance is good too if you're from a named school. statistics fall under the M in STEM
economics has value because it's harder than the other business majors, but you still better have a strong network. id rather get cancer than be an architect lmao 
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:22 pm to TigersSEC2010
Didn't you hear? TOPS is wasting money by funding 4-year degrees when businesses really only want 2-year degrees. 
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:22 pm to SabiDojo
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Would a degree make someone with 7 years experience more qualified than someone with 15 years experience and no degree?
Did it take you 8 years to get a bachelors degree?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:24 pm to TheIndulger
I'm just trying to gauge what kind of value an undergraduate degree has that experience alone can't provide.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:24 pm to SabiDojo
How’s your MBA coming along?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:25 pm to Carson123987
Yes I do realize statistics falls under math. I still pointed it out because many statistics classes/majors are offered through the University's business department, which isn't considered STEM.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:28 pm to SabiDojo
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I'm just trying to gauge what kind of value an undergraduate degree has that experience alone can't provide.
A degree isn't only applicable to his ability to lead patrol officers. In a way, as chief, you're running a business, whether it be budgeting or personnel, certain degrees can give you a much stronger understanding that experience alone wouldn't fully teach.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:31 pm to TigersSEC2010
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Having firsthand experience on the student side of the equation would likely help a shitload.
This is actually a big factor. Being a campus police officer is different than being a city cop. Just like being an MP on a military base is different than being a city cop. You need to understand the culture of the folks you are policing to be most effective. This is why it is harder for a rookie patrolman from the suburbs to learn to work the ghetto than a guy who grew up in the city. Not getting all SJW with this but any experienced LEO will tell you that the best cops are the ones who grew up in and understand the culture of the places they are working.
ETA: Not to mention, the fact that our states flagship university Chief doesn’t have a degree just looks bad.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 11/17/17 at 4:37 pm to TigersSEC2010
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you're running a business, whether it be budgeting or personnel, certain degrees can give you a much stronger understanding that experience alone wouldn't fully teach.
countless people start their own businesses without a modicum of time spent in a business school. plenty of books, websites, business coaches, etc to learn from.
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