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re: Louisiana woman shares photos of stillborn son on Facebook

Posted on 10/6/15 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74138 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 10:38 pm to
Absolutely no issue
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:30 pm to
Yea, the ways people deal w/ grief is almost as unique to them as their fingerprints.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:34 pm to
I have a FB page for my practice. I've never created a personal one and I do not read FB.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:40 pm to
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attention whoring is attention whoring regardless of the reason for it. Its in poor taste and leads to a pissing match with other attention whores. FB should disable the account. Woman shouldn't have posted it.


My mom had one still birth (carried to term), 4 miscarriages, and another 5 or 6 false pregnancies. Granted, social media wasn't around when this occurred but she took the situation very hard and did not discuss the issue with anyone. Only her and my dad were at the burial of my brother.

It wasn't until she found out that a dear friend had pregnancy issues and was able to share her feelings with someone else that my mom fully came to grasp with the death and miscarriages.

So my mom went the reverse of attention whoring and struggled mightily with the situation. Perhaps had she been more public and forthcoming she would have had a bigger and more supportive group to help her though.
Posted by MDTiger 13
Member since Nov 2010
1044 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 12:42 am to
A girl I graduated high school with has posted such pictures. Every now and then someone reports her to Facebook and she goes on massively epic rampage posts about the mystery reporter. Sad situation, but 3-4 years out, people are still reporting her and she is still going on the rampages. It went from sad to humorous at some point
Posted by CENLALSUFAN
Beaumont
Member since Mar 2009
7269 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 1:47 am to
This is a billion times better than that hash tag shout out your abortion shite going around Facebook...
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 1:54 am to
Some of you people are really terrible.
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2046 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:25 am to
Nothing unusual about this. Facebook is a social network of friends, families and acquaintances. You share aspects of your life with those people. Child birth and child loss are significant events.

I've said before in other child loss threads, there is no way to understand the impact of losing a child if you've never experienced it.

When we were told our daughter would not survive and we had to make the decision to take her off of life support, we were connected to a nonprofit group that takes professional photos of babies who pass away.

Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep

Obviously don't click the link if you can't stomach tasteful and professional photos of a deceased infant. But I wanted to post their website because they are an incredible organization with an amazingly compassionate network of photographers who come to your home or the NICU and photograph your final moments with your child and provide those images free of charge.

If you ever have a few dollars to donate and wanted to give to a worthy cause, they are great.

Those photos are all we'll ever have of our daughter and we are so grateful to have them.

We shared a few on Facebook and did not receive any negative reaction. I've said before in these type threads that we can't and shouldn't avoid or suppress things that make us uncomfortable. The thought of child loss is incredibly uneasy to ponder but try to imagine how the parents feel. Think of how many photos of people's children are posted to FB and think how this photo will be the only one they can ever share of their child.

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:27 am to
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Perhaps had she been more public and forthcoming she would have had a bigger and more supportive group to help her though.


Perhaps, perhaps not. There is no guarantee that posting pics of the deceased will help the grieving individual. But it will piss people off and lead to what we have here- a discussion about everything Other than the event for which support is needed.
So in an effort to "grieve", a situation is created that totally eclipses the purpose for posting the pics in the first place.
if the griever wants to share the pics in a private forum with others, so be it. But IMO, a public forum like FB defeats the purpose and is counterproductive regardless of the woman's intentions.
It's also somewhat inconsiderate of those who don't want to see the pics.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:29 am to
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Think of how many photos of people's children are posted to FB and think how this photo will be the only one they can ever share of their child.


Yeah that is what I was thinking as well about parents that share those pics. Those are the only pictures they have of their baby. Unlike parents that lose a child when they are older, they don't have photos of the child while alive to share and remember. By sharing the pictures their friends and family can place a face to the baby instead of it being this mysterious thing that was never born. As long as the pictures are tasteful, I really don't see an issue. Don't follow that friend on fb if it bugs you so much. They are dealing with the hardest thing a parent can deal with, you can take the higher road and show some compassion and get over the ongoing trend of getting offended at everything.

Again, everyone grieves and copes with death differently. I'm sorry for you loss and for the jerks that downvoted your post.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112946 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:30 am to
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I don't see the issue. It's terribly sad and tragic and I don't know how I would react if it happened to me.

If they want to share it the pictures with friends and family, why should I care?
Exactly.

If it helps her to grieve then who are we to judge.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112946 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:33 am to
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I won't judge someone for how they handle their grief because it is any parent's worst nightmare to have a child die, whether age 0-whatever. That being said, the last thing I would want to do is post a picture like that on any form of social media, but again, that is only applying to me. I grew up watching distant relatives essentially climbing into my great grandmother's coffin to take a picture with her in 1991, so I didn't quite understand that either. People handle things differently and that is the best I can say on the matter.
You said it about as well as it could be said.

I'm surprised by the reaction of the OT as a whole, pleaseantly.
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2046 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:49 am to
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Yeah that is what I was thinking as well about parents that share those pics. Those are the only pictures they have of their baby. Unlike parents that lose a child when they are older, they don't have photos of the child while alive to share and remember. By sharing the pictures their friends and family can place a face to the baby instead of it being this mysterious thing that was never born. As long as the pictures are tasteful, I really don't see an issue. Don't follow that friend on fb if it bugs you so much. They are dealing with the hardest thing a parent can deal with, you can take the higher road and show some compassion and get over the ongoing trend of getting offended at everything.

Again, everyone grieves and copes with death differently. I'm sorry for you loss and for the jerks that downvoted your post.


I'm used to the occasional downvote.

I do find it interesting how polarizing this topic is. There was the recent thread about a woman throwing a birthday party (where she collected toys for needy kids) for her deceased baby and the reactions were similar.

With so much outrage over SJWs who get offended about every little thing, it seems lots of people really have no reservations about expressing their outrage over people outwardly grieving a loss and the discomfort it causes.

As I've said before, the loss of a loved one is difficult but the loss of a child is an unimaginable tragedy. People just don't want to think about it or acknowledge it because it is such an uncomfortable topic. I get it. But that avoidance of the topic causes unnecessary isolation for grieving parents.

Again, sharing that pain (on a social media site comprised of friends, family and acquaintances) is helpful and affirms the day to day struggle of child loss.

I saw the dreaded "attention whore" label used in a post. Maybe it is. But so what? These people need attention and love and compassion and they won't get it when everyone is so damn scared of facing the death of a child that they avoid grieving parents.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26751 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:53 am to
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I am vehemently against broadcasting personal tragedy in the moment, but that is just ne.


I personally feel the same way, and I used to project my feelings on other people and say they were wrong for doing it too. However, I've come to realize that people truly do grieve and cope in different ways so if this helps the people it happened to do, then good for them. Who am I to say how they should or shouldn't grieve and cope? It has nothing to do with me.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 9:56 am
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9510 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:57 am to
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What sucks is a family that works hard and wants a kid so bad....but can't have them...

Then you have ladies that drink and smoke and do drugs and pop them out every year or get abortions. How is that fair?


It's not. My wife and I lost our son at 24 weeks after premature birth. He lived for 30 minutes and passed.

We haven't been there same since. We are trying to conceive again but we are having issues. The wife is getting depressed because we can't get it to work and she thinks we lost our only shot.


The shite fricking sucks. Point being, people grieve differently. To this day its hard for me to be around other peoples newborns.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112946 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:13 am to
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Who am I to say how they should or shouldn't grieve and cope?
I've said many times on this board, telling others how they should grieve is one of the most arrogant things I can think.
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2046 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:39 am to
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It's not. My wife and I lost our son at 24 weeks after premature birth. He lived for 30 minutes and passed. We haven't been there same since. We are trying to conceive again but we are having issues. The wife is getting depressed because we can't get it to work and she thinks we lost our only shot. The shite fricking sucks. Point being, people grieve differently. To this day its hard for me to be around other peoples newborns.


So sorry to hear that, brother!

I know that feeling. For us, we didn't get married until we were in our early 30s and were fortunate to have a healthy son in 2011. We are now both 39 and the window is already all but closed without great risk for complications for my wife and a child. She's really bummed about it too.

I also understand your feelings about seeing newborns. It's like everyone in our lives have had a healthy baby in the last year and to see their joy, we're crushed with envy.

I remember walking out of the hospital after our daughter passed. We were numb. There was a car parked by the admission entrance. It was a very young couple -- kids really. I don't imagine they were married (but I suppose they could have been) She was in labor and as she was being loaded into a wheel chair, I made eye contact with her boyfriend. He looked like he wanted to be anywhere but there with her in that moment.

Obviously I was projecting my feelings of loss on to him, somewhat -- but I just thought how many people look at kids as a burden or an after-thought. Maybe I did at some point in my life, so I won't judge. It is just so unfair that so many wonderful, loving couples are unable to conceive and so many dipshits and losers are just popping healthy babies out left and right.

Nature is cruel sometimes.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:04 am to
I took photos of my 22 year old son as he lay in his casket. I never wanted to forget his face.

If you know the person posting on FB, please refer them to the FB page, Grieving Mothers, which is a closed group. Btw, grieving fathers are also welcome there. Thanks
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:16 am to
Cleve, thanks for the info on the organization. Am planning to apply to volunteer for them. Worked as an NICU nurse for years and witnessed too many losses. This organization is making a big difference. I'm sure. Again thanks.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37611 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:23 am to
It's weird and wrong in my humble opinion. A girl my girlfriend knows did this exact thing. Hers was stillborn quite premature, and they basically took family photos and posted them.

I get maybe wanting to take those pictures. Fine, it could be therapeutic. But broadcasting them to however many random friends and acquaintances you have on Facebook? That's gross. If you want to send them to close friends and family, use email. If you want condolences from your larger community of friends, I think that sharing that you lost the pregnancy would be more than enough to get what you're looking for.
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