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re: Louisiana supreme court claims priests do not have to report child abuse

Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:43 am to
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You ever read the Old Testament?


If you believe that shite is literal, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:48 am to
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Can't be compelled to break the seal of confession.

So what happened here?

1. Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
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Warren Jeffs

A federal court jury ruled Monday that the FLDS discriminates against those who refuse to practice what it preaches or who have been banished from the church.

New Times has written over the years of the FLDS' forcing underage girls into polygamous unions with older men.
Indeed, Jeffs, the FLDS' self-proclaimed prophet, is serving a life prison sentence for the sexual assault of two girls.

Polygamy in Arizona

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69095 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:49 am to
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The case involves a young woman who claims she told a Baton Rouge-area Catholic priest that a longtime church parishioner was sexually abusing her when she was 14 but the priest did nothing to stop or report the alleged abuse.


2:1 the priest was fapping when she was telling him her story.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:49 am to
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ETA: and to act like there aren't already government restrictions on religious freedom is asinine.


There are restrictions on every fundamental right, as there should be. The 1st Amendment is the most important of the Bill of Rights, but there are and should be limitations. I haven't read the ruling so I don't know what the basis was, but cloaking suppression of child abuse in religious freedom would leave a pit in my stomach.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:50 am to
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This is when you say that God knows your true intentions and whether you are sincere in your heart and then I would ask why the need to confess it to a priest then?


Priests need fap material brah.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:52 am to
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If you believe that shite is literal, I don't know what to tell you.


Oh, it's supposed to be literal, especially after the creation story. The problem is it is at odds with modernity and liberal society.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:59 am to
I mean the notion that the First Amendment is limited isn't even some new "secular" thing. That was decided in the 1800's with regard to polygamy.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:01 am to
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I mean the notion that the First Amendment is limited isn't even some new "secular" thing. That was decided in the 1800's with regard to polygamy.


Thanks Obama?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:02 am to
War on Christians continues
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 10:03 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:02 am to
That time-traveling a-hole.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:03 am to
The Mormons really have gotten the short end of the Freedom of Religion stick.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:09 am to
They have. At least they want to frick multiple consenting adults. Catholics here are condoning covering up kid rape. And let's not even start on the Muslims. But they're usually brown people so a little subjugation is to be expected and forgiven. But yeah, Mormons got the short end of the majority white person freedom of religion ordeal.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:10 am to
To be fair we are saving them from themselves. One wife is grating enough, I can't imagine putting up with it from both sides.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:23 am to
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The new ruling protects the priest and the church from being held accountable for failing to protect children and report child abuse. In essence, the ruling places church dogma above the law.

As always, it is the children who suffer.

Bottom line: If a priest hears about a child being abused, in confession or not, that priest has a moral obligation to do everything in their power to protect that child, including reporting the abuse to the appropriate law enforcement authorities. To do otherwise is to fail as a human being.

Yet the fact that the Catholic church would fight for and win the right to keep child abuse hidden should come as a surprise to no one. After all, the Catholic church has a long and well documented history of protecting child abusers at the expense of innocent children. -


It has gotten to such a ridiculous point that it's hard to believe this organization is still allowed to operate in a civilized country.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:25 am to
Hey look if a Muslim wants to mutilate their daughter's genitals, we better make sure they have the freedom to do so. I understand that it hurts the daughter, but it helps get souls to Allah.

Priorities right!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87416 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:14 am to
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Bottom line: If a priest hears about a child being abused, in confession or not, that priest has a moral obligation to do everything in their power to protect that child, including reporting the abuse to the appropriate law enforcement authorities.
The Church is not a police agency. Why isn't this abuse being reported to the proper authorities?

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It has gotten to such a ridiculous point that it's hard to believe this organization is still allowed to operate in a civilized country.


Oh good grief.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:19 am to
Yes the church isn't an investigative agency, hence why mandatory reporters have a duty to notify the police who are supposed to conduct the investigation.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:21 am to
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If you believe that shite is literal, I don't know what to tell you.

Which specific passages of God killing people do you reject? The passages are contained in the most holy text of Christianity. You're pretty much saying half the Bible is bullshite but the other half is legit. Can you let me in on the secret as to which books, chapters and verses are horseshite and which are correct?



ETA: And FWIW, God killed people in the New Testament, as well.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:23 am to
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The Church is not a police agency. Why isn't this abuse being reported to the proper authorities?


I remember hearing this type of argument from Penn State fans when defending Paterno.

Turned my stomach then, too...

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Oh good grief.


Indeed.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:23 am to
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If you believe that shite is literal, I don't know what to tell you


Is the new testament literal?
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