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re: Louisiana supreme court claims priests do not have to report child abuse
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:09 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:09 pm to boosiebadazz
Priests are required to alert authorities if there is an immediate threat to, a child, the confessor, or anyone else. However, if called to testify in court, they cannot divulge anything said to them during a confession. That's the correct rule.
In this case, the priest told the parents and tried to get the abuser to stop. Then, the abuser died from a sudden cancer diagnosis. I think God stepped in on this one.
In this case, the priest told the parents and tried to get the abuser to stop. Then, the abuser died from a sudden cancer diagnosis. I think God stepped in on this one.
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:10 pm to Golfer
I'm obligated to report a client threatening immediate harm to someone, and I'm totally fine with that.
It would kinda defeat the entire point of a judicial system if I could be forced to disclose my client's confession.
It would kinda defeat the entire point of a judicial system if I could be forced to disclose my client's confession.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:11 pm to LucasP
Not that I agree w the opinion or anything, but I would think the difference is one is licensed by the state and the priest is not.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:14 pm to boosiebadazz
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I'm obligated to report a client threatening immediate harm to someone, and I'm totally fine with that.
It would kinda defeat the entire point of a judicial system if I could be forced to disclose my client's confession.
This is the same with the seal of the confessional. Must report immediate harm. Not forced to disclose the discussion.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:15 pm to kingbob
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Can't be compelled to break the seal of confession. That's the correct ruling
Yes, because yet again the catholic church is unwilling to mandate that their people protect kids. All because of some ancient rules made when people were allowed to frick kids, keep slaves, and generally do whatever as long as they tithe accordingly.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:18 pm to Golfer
But there is a secular reason for a lawyer not being forced to disclose a confession. A fair and adversarial justice system.
You can't give me a secular reason for the priest being protected. You're putting an individual's religion over the overarching good of society. I'm not aware of another instance in which that is allowed.
You can't give me a secular reason for the priest being protected. You're putting an individual's religion over the overarching good of society. I'm not aware of another instance in which that is allowed.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:18 pm to OweO
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frick this. If it involves child abuse there is no reason it should not be reported. I don't understand why they do not have to report it.
Some states require literally every citizen be a mandated reporter. That's how it should be, and we shouldnt even need some rule of law to tell us that.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:23 pm to kingbob
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this case, the priest told the parents and tried to get the abuser to stop.
Weird that no one bothered to tell the cops
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:23 pm to Tiger in NY
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Some states require literally every citizen be a mandated reporter. That's how it should be, and we shouldnt even need some rule of law to tell us that.
He did report it. Albeit not to the cops. But he did tell her parents.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:24 pm to Tiger in NY
So this is saying if a person confesses to molesting a child during confession, the priest is required to report it??
If that's the case. Then that is completely fricked up. frick that ruling and frick your religion if you think that's okay.
If that's the case. Then that is completely fricked up. frick that ruling and frick your religion if you think that's okay.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:26 pm to Tiger in NY
You're an idiot. You can easily do research on this and figure it out. On top of all this, statistically speaking, similar things are done across the identity spectrum, including yours, whatever that may be. For what it's worth, I find abuse of a child in anyway, one of the most detestable of crimes, but don't bash the institution because of your ignorance of the principles of said institutions practices or the violation of that institutions practices by a few wolves in sheeps clothing. I guarantee you they exist in your circles too.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:27 pm to Golfer
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He did report it. Albeit not to the cops. But he did tell her parents
There's a reason mandated reporting requires the reporting to go to specific authorities. Sadly, parents aren't always even acting in the best interest of the child. That's where society acts as an objective authority with only the child's welfare in mind.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:29 pm to i am dan
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i am dan
Ruling says priests do NOT have to report kids confessing to being molested
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:32 pm to Tiger in NY
Do lawyers have to report it? Honest question
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:33 pm to LSUTANGERINE
No.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:33 pm to Ton Chou
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You're an idiot. You can easily do research on this and figure it out. On top of all this, statistically speaking, similar things are done across the identity spectrum, including yours, whatever that may be. For what it's worth, I find abuse of a child in anyway, one of the most detestable of crimes, but don't bash the institution because of your ignorance of the principles of said institutions practices or the violation of that institutions practices by a few wolves in sheeps clothing. I guarantee you they exist in your circles too
Lol, I'm the idiot while you just justified child rape by saying, "hey, it hapeens in all professions and circles". Nice.
All I've said was that the church could easily make a change and require priests to be mandatede reporters of very specific types of actions. But no, we have to just follow the way it has always been. Ok.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:35 pm to Tiger in NY
Gonna be hard to distinguish this ruling the next time a Muslim wants to beat his wife for being disobedient.
I mean we've said we shouldn't beat women as a society, but beating women is in the Koran and a sincere religious belief for some so maybe we do need to carve out another exception.
I mean we've said we shouldn't beat women as a society, but beating women is in the Koran and a sincere religious belief for some so maybe we do need to carve out another exception.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:36 pm to Tiger in NY
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All I've said was that the church could easily make a change and require priests to be mandatede reporters of very specific types of actions.
Just for the record, Priests, and other Religious and lay personnel and volunteers in the Church are required to report abuse to authorities. The confessional is the only issue here.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:37 pm to Tiger in NY
It's privileged just like what an accused criminal tells his attorney. Most states have laws like this.
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