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re: Louisiana Legislators WORKING TO OVERRIDE JBE STAY AT HOME EO
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:16 pm to Brummy
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:16 pm to Brummy
Already did.
NOW, someone on Poli board (sorry) said that the Repubs will be too scared ... IF they're able to accomplish what can JBE do to them? Our state is already so screwed .. he's gonna withhold money??? WE HAVE NO MONEY TO WITHHOLD!!
He can't kick them out of office. So he won't authorize special projects. WHO CARES.
NOW, someone on Poli board (sorry) said that the Repubs will be too scared ... IF they're able to accomplish what can JBE do to them? Our state is already so screwed .. he's gonna withhold money??? WE HAVE NO MONEY TO WITHHOLD!!
He can't kick them out of office. So he won't authorize special projects. WHO CARES.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:16 pm to FieldMink
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yet the state wants to open things up...
Curve has been flattened. Why do you want to continue the shutdown?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:17 pm to tiger91
Here is the relevant statute:
There are some benefits we lose if the entire Emergency Declaration is rescinded. If this happens, there would be nothing preventing someone from holding a 10,000 person concert or something like that. The legislature can not declare their own State of Emergency with looser social restrictions.
The GOP would be wise to try and use this to leverage JBE into loosening his restrictions instead of out-right nullifying it out the gate.
quote:
§724. Powers of the governor
A. The governor is responsible for meeting the dangers to the state and people presented by emergencies or disasters, and in order to effectuate the provisions of this Chapter, the governor may issue executive orders, proclamations, and regulations and amend or rescind them. Executive orders, proclamations, and regulations so issued shall have the force and effect of law.
B.(1) A disaster or emergency, or both, shall be declared by executive order or proclamation of the governor if he finds that a disaster or emergency has occurred or the threat thereof is imminent. The state of disaster or emergency shall continue until the governor finds that the threat of danger has passed or the disaster or emergency has been dealt with to the extent that the emergency conditions no longer exist and terminates the state of disaster or emergency by executive order or proclamation, but no state of disaster or emergency may continue for longer than thirty days unless renewed by the governor.
(2) The legislature, by petition signed by a majority of the surviving members of either house, may terminate a state of disaster or emergency at any time. This petition terminating the state of emergency or disaster may establish a period during which no other declaration of emergency or disaster may be issued. Thereupon, the governor shall issue an executive order or proclamation ending the state of disaster or emergency.
(3) All executive orders or proclamations issued under this Subsection shall indicate the nature of the disaster or emergency, the designated emergency area which is or may be affected, and the conditions which have brought it about or which make possible the termination of the state of disaster or emergency. An executive order or proclamation shall be disseminated promptly by means calculated to bring its contents to the attention of the general public and, unless the circumstances attendant upon the disaster or emergency prevent or impede it, promptly filed with the Governor's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness and with the secretary of state.
(4) As soon as conditions allow, the governor may proclaim a reduction of the designated emergency area, or the termination of the state of emergency.
C. The declaration of an emergency or disaster by the governor shall:
(1) Activate the state's emergency response and recovery program under the command of the director of the Governor's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.
(2) Direct and compel the evacuation of all or part of the population from any stricken or threatened area within the state if he deems this action necessary for the preservation of life or other disaster mitigation, response, or recovery.
(3) Control ingress and egress to and from a disaster area, the movement of persons within the area, and the occupancy of premises therein.
D. In addition to any other powers conferred upon the governor by law, he may do any or all of the following:
(1) Suspend the provisions of any regulatory statute prescribing the procedures for conduct of state business, or the orders, rules, or regulations of any state agency, if strict compliance with the provisions of any statute, order, rule, or regulation would in any way prevent, hinder, or delay necessary action in coping with the emergency.
(2) Utilize all available resources of the state government and of each political subdivision of the state as reasonably necessary to cope with the disaster or emergency.
(3) Transfer the direction, personnel, or functions of state departments and agencies or units thereof for the purpose of performing or facilitating emergency services.
(4) Subject to any applicable requirements for compensation, commandeer or utilize any private property if he finds this necessary to cope with the disaster or emergency.
(5) Prescribe routes, modes of transportation, and destination in connection with evacuation.
(6) Suspend or limit the sale, dispensing, or transportation of alcoholic beverages, firearms, explosives, and combustibles.
(7) Make provision for the availability and use of temporary emergency housing.
E. In the event of an emergency declared by the governor pursuant to this Chapter, any person or representative of any firm, partnership, or corporation violating any order, rule, or regulation promulgated pursuant to this Chapter, shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars or confined in the parish jail for not more than six months, or both. No executive order, proclamation, or regulation shall create or define a crime or fix penalties.
F. No organization for homeland security and emergency preparedness established under this Chapter shall be employed directly or indirectly for political purposes.
G. Notwithstanding the provisions of this Section, except in an imminent life threatening situation nothing herein shall restrict any uniformed employee of a licensed private security company, acting within the scope of employment, from entering and remaining in an area where an emergency has been declared. The provisions of this Subsection shall apply if the licensed private security company submits a list of employees and their assignment to be allowed into the area, to the Louisiana State Board of Private Security Examiners, which shall forward the list to the chief law enforcement office of the parish and, if different, the agency in charge of the scene.
There are some benefits we lose if the entire Emergency Declaration is rescinded. If this happens, there would be nothing preventing someone from holding a 10,000 person concert or something like that. The legislature can not declare their own State of Emergency with looser social restrictions.
The GOP would be wise to try and use this to leverage JBE into loosening his restrictions instead of out-right nullifying it out the gate.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:17 pm to FieldMink
quote:Hey y’all look. It’s the retard.
Louisiana has 27k cases with 1,700 deaths related to covid-19...yet the state wants to open things up...
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:18 pm to tiger91
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Louisiana Legislators WORKING TO OVERRIDE JBE STAY AT HOME EO
Gotta love a GOP super majority.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:19 pm to tiger91
less than 33% chance it happens...but MAN i WISH it would
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:21 pm to ell_13
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There’s a lot more to that clip and it’s great. Either house of the legislature can basically veto the emergency declaration and put a stopgap on new regulations for 60 days. All the reps would need us 53 votes. Could be done as early as this week.
I would bet $1,000 that JBE anticipated this and only extended the order so that he could blame Republicans when the numbers spike.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:25 pm to FieldMink
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Louisiana has 27k cases with 1,700 deaths related to covid-19...yet the state wants to open things up.
FieldMink, you honestly believe that all those 1700 deaths have all been because of COVID-19 or that these people died of other causes. Human error says that there's definitely some skew on those numbers.
Healthcare workers are starting to even get tired of the bs with all these numbers and the pressure to categorize them all as covid deaths while leaving out key details like preexisting conditions.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:26 pm to Antonio Moss
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There are some benefits we lose if the entire Emergency Declaration is rescinded. If this happens, there would be nothing preventing someone from holding a 10,000 person concert or something like that. The legislature can not declare their own State of Emergency with looser social restrictions.
so be it
quote:
The GOP would be wise to try and use this to leverage JBE into loosening his restrictions instead of out-right nullifying it out the gate.
disagree
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:27 pm to FieldMink
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Louisiana has 27k cases with 1,700 deaths related to covid-19...yet the state wants to open things up...
4.6 million people in the state, jackass. More people died of Alzheimers in this state in 2017 than have died of COVID this year.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:28 pm to Hunter_H_Helmsley
Don’t argue with him. Don’t let people like this change the narrative. The point of this was to flatten the curve. That has been done, period.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:28 pm to Cowboyfan89
There are people in the facility where I work refusing to eat due to depression as they can't see and visit with their families. Window visits aren't helping.
She'll be a covid death, although she's negative.
She'll be a covid death, although she's negative.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:29 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Cities can have their own "rules" or whatever that people have to follow. Look at New Orleans, they aren't allowing outdoor dining, although the EO allows for it starting Friday.
There are some benefits we lose if the entire Emergency Declaration is rescinded. If this happens, there would be nothing preventing someone from holding a 10,000 person concert or something like that. The legislature can not declare their own State of Emergency with looser social restrictions.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:29 pm to tiger91
Does anyone have a well written letter to their Legislators that they wouldn't mind posting that we can email to our own Legislators about voting to override this SAH order?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:31 pm to bbap
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The GOP would be wise to try and use this to leverage JBE into loosening his restrictions instead of out-right nullifying it out the gate.
disagree
Then you are probably asking for more problems down the road.
Ideally, the GOP drafts the petition in the House, rallies the votes, and then tells JBE it will be passed on Friday if they following changes to his EO are not made - then simply list looser the social restrictions.
Politically, it makes sense to force JBE's hand. Right now, the GOP really only has two options available - current lockdown or no restrictions whatsoever and no ability to reissue an Emergency Declaration for 30-60 days. It's an all or nothing choice and probably not in the best interest of the state either way.
Instead, you can attempt to get the Phase I modifications through pressure on Edwards.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:31 pm to Pintail
Someone posted one yesterday ... I'll look real quick.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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Then you are probably asking for more problems down the road.
or being rid of it sooner.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:32 pm to tiger91
Whoever's name is on this is going to make a HUGE political career move when this is over.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:33 pm to bbap
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or being rid of it sooner.
^^^^^^^^
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