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re: Louisiana gets final funds for massive $3 billion Mid-Barataria Sediment Diversion
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:57 am to member12
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:57 am to member12
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this works, CPRA is going to try a few smaller scale projects in other parts of the state too. Not many places in the world where this is being done. Louisiana and the Netherlands are kind of leading the way on this out of necessity.
Cary Goss and Premier Concrete going to eat well on this.
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:59 am to tke_swamprat
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From the image, it looks like they should have a few of these on Hwy 23 and then look what can be done near Lafitte and LA 1 to help those areas out.
Allow river water to flow down Bayou Lafourche from Donaldsonville
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:17 am to lowhound
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Allow river water to flow down Bayou Lafourche from Donaldsonville
They are adding a pump station to increase flow, but still a drop in the bucket
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:19 am to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Exactly. But the oyster fisherman are the only ones pushing back against this. "Not in my honeyhole!"
They're willing to sacrifice their great-grandchildren's future for their own.
To be fair, few people would willing give up / dramatically change their lifestyle / employment "for the greater good".
Don't believe me? Try to suggest we remove levees along the lower Mississippi.
The reality is that this project will work, AND it will negativrly impact the oystermen.
Both of those can be true.
I understand the oystermen concerns, they are valid. The rest of us need to accept them, help them transistion, and inform them we are moving forward with the plan.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:21 am to Hobie101
They need to dredge the northern portion of Bayou Lafourche and let the river start flowing.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:24 am to Indefatigable
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the state is in a weird spot with the Lt Governor opposing the project.
The oyster fishermen are his people. Remember he's from Plaquemines Parish.
This fall is the parish president / parish council race in St Bernard. The parish president and both at large council spots are all term limited (at lease one of the council at large is running for president, maybe both). This along with the port oroject will likely be the two biggest issues in the campaign.
It's funny. Two projects that will no doubt help the greater NOLA area, but most of the negative impacts will only be felt locally.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:24 am to LSUFanHouston
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I understand the oystermen concerns, they are valid. The rest of us need to accept them, help them transistion, and inform them we are moving forward with the plan.
Very well said.
Their ancestors started their empire in the 1800's before the river was tamed with the levee's. They'll do it again
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:27 am to dewster
Oyster prices up, crawfish going down?
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:33 am to Geauxldilocks
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Cary Goss and Premier Concrete going to eat well on this
i can only assume that you know this guy personally. I can tell you that he also owns GEC, and engineering firm, on top of Premier Concrete and Industrial Fabrics (IFI). the conflict of interests are astounding. How the feds have not limited his services/materials on the same projects is amazing to me.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:40 am to Screaming Viking
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the conflict of interests are astounding
You must be new here. Project overruns will be in the billions when its all said and done.
All that aside, I'm glad its moving forward. This is long overdue.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:47 am to Screaming Viking
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GEC
That’s the firm that wrote the EIS to get the project permitted….which happened a few years after they hired the old head of CPRA. The benefits of this project are grossly overstated and the impacts are glossed over. If you read the EIS (which I have) their findings don’t conclude that you should build the project … but they company made that conclusion. This project is going to hopefully build land for $200K/ acre …. But you can dredge for $40K/acre.
Unfortunately, the Diversion zealots will win out and they will all be dead-and-gone when the first bits of land are realized. Much too late for anyone else in South Louisiana
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:51 am to Marshhen
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This project is going to hopefully build land for $200K/ acre …. But you can dredge for $40K/acre.
That’s a testament to the inefficiency of the diversion and not the efficiency of dredging. Dredging is still expensive and the further you pipe it the worse it gets.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:04 pm to dewster
Glad I passed on that camp in Myrtle Grove.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:17 pm to Marshhen
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This project is going to hopefully build land for $200K/ acre …. But you can dredge for $40K/acre.
You are suggesting that the only benefit is land building. The diversions will also provide nutrients in addition to sediment that Barataria is starving for. The abundance of wildlife by Mardi Gras pass compared to the West Bank tells the story. The ecosystem of the entire basin will improve. Even more so if it is enough to reduce tidal flow in the basin.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:36 pm to Hobie101
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They are adding a pump station to increase flow, but still a drop in the bucket
But that is not pumping the sediment rich water near the bottom. Only surface water.
The damming of Bayou Lafourche was the death of the Terrebonne Basin. When that sediment laden water was blocked and replaced by surface water, the southern ends of Bayous Lafourche & Terrebonne, etc all immediately suffered. Then completely closing in Bayou Terrebonne from Bayou Lafourche completely destroyed lower Terrebonne Parish.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:50 pm to dewster
I won't be alive in 2070 to see if it worked. Good luck to all in advance.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 1:14 pm to Capt ST
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crawfish going down?
Crawfish prices never go down
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:18 pm to lowhound
Been saying this for years. It’s beyond time.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:27 pm to dewster
very skeptical but I hope it works
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:41 pm to tke_swamprat
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They need to dredge the northern portion of Bayou Lafourche and let the river start flowing.
Back in the 1990's someone floated the idea of a conveyance channel that would parallel Bayou Lafourche from the Mississipp River because too much development has been done along the banks of Bayou Lafourche North of Raceland.
One idea I thought of is to utilize Lake des Allemands and the interconnecting waterways to allow freshwater down the basin. Water control strutures could be used to maintain a boundry of fresh water along a natural ridge east of Galliano. That could help move freshwater west through the intracoastal and into Timbalier Bay, along with all the other fresh water that comes from the Atchfaylaya.
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