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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - August 31, 2020 Update: +324 cases; +19 deaths; -21 hospitalized

Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:49 pm to
It’s all about the vents baw
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56717 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:01 pm to



Just learned you can click on the region & it shows how many vents in use
Currently there are 500 vents in use, 132 are Covid patients
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22733 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:06 pm to
When the next presumed recovered # comes out, there's going to very few "active cases"
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8353 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:21 pm to
But that hurricane evacuation spike will be a bitch.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5960 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:46 pm to

Is John Bell going to announce when all his new ventilators get here? We need them badly.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Is John Bell going to announce when all his new ventilators get here? We need them badly.


I need him to start updating us during his press conferences about the number of patients at the $100 million temporary hospital in Nola.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42430 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Honestly I don’t think any of it matters, no matter what the #’s are JBE isn’t going to reopen


This^

Either the legislature steps in, or we just accept it until after the election.

It will be interesting in two weeks if the numbers keep dropping though.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42303 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:01 pm to
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need him to start updating us during his press conferences about the number of patients at the $100 million temporary hospital in Nola.


$150,000,000
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75186 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:02 pm to
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JBE

frick that slimy cocksucker.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75186 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

need him to start updating us during his press conferences about the number of patients at the $100 million temporary hospital in Nola.

quote:

$150,000,000

Nah. It is 100 million.

That other 50 mill went to the "discretionary fund", likely.

Allegedly and stuff. Of course.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:04 pm to
And remind me again how much he spent on ventilators?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

All age groups peaked before the mandate.

I would also add that the black line in the “cases by collection date” graph is a rolling average. Which means that new cases had already started to decline when it reached its peak.

Honestly I’m not sure you can draw conclusions one way or the other about the mask mandate. Some would probably argue that various municipalities had implemented mandates prior to the statewide order. My opinion is that there are way too many variables to make much of it either way without some serious statistical analysis.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75186 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:12 pm to
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And remind me again how much he spent on ventilators?



3.50, likely.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:24 pm to
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I would also add that the black line in the “cases by collection date” graph is a rolling average. Which means that new cases had already started to decline when it reached its peak.



I've been beating this drum for weeks. It's just obvious things peaked before the mandate, from multiple LDH graphs. You can even look at things Region by Region and see the lack of effect. Most Regions peaked at the same time on cases, which was the exact day of the mandate, which doesn't make sense for masks to have an effect considering how the virus and testing work. Some areas were before, some were after.

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Honestly I’m not sure you can draw conclusions one way or the other about the mask mandate.


You most certainly can draw the conclusion that the mask mandate, despite what the governor says, is not the reason why the metrics declined.

Percent positive was on the decline the week before the mandate went into effect.
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3856 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:31 pm to
I could be wrong but didn't EBR and NOLA put in place mask mandates a week before the state put theirs in place?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:34 pm to
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The most important graph in this thread

The percent positive barely changed in this “second wave”. The testing just increased dramatically and created a false spike. This pandemic has been on its way out for a long time now

A couple of things here:

For starters, I think the scale of that graph may be a little misleading. If the positivity rate bottomed out at 8% or so and then spiked as high as 15%, that means positivity nearly doubled along with a huge increase in testing volume. If the case count was purely due to increased testing, positivity should fall - not remain flat or increase.

Second, I think the graph of cases by age group is more telling. It’s pretty clear to me that the biggest reason this wave hasn’t been as bad as the first is likely the fact that most of the cases during the second wave were among younger people.

So big picture, I don’t think it’s a “false spike” so to speak. Rather, I think it was a spike that was much more concentrated among the lowest risk portion of the population.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:52 pm to
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I could be wrong but didn't EBR and NOLA put in place mask mandates a week before the state put theirs in place?


New Orleans had one since May 14th...yet cases still "spiked" in June and July.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:57 pm to
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or starters, I think the scale of that graph may be a little misleading. If the positivity rate bottomed out at 8% or so and then spiked as high as 15%, that means positivity nearly doubled along with a huge increase in testing volume. If the case count was purely due to increased testing, positivity should fall - not remain flat or increase.


There is no doubt that more virus was out circulating, however, it is still possible to increase positivity and the number of tests with targeted testing (contact tracing; congregate settings) and requiring testing of asymptomatic people trying to get back to life (workplace testing and requiring testing before surgery).

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So big picture, I don’t think it’s a “false spike” so to speak. Rather, I think it was a spike that was much more concentrated among the lowest risk portion of the population.


#CASEdemic
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13643 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 4:48 pm to
JBE says there more cases, but with Hurricane efforts ongoing, a lot of people haven’t got tested. That’s the excuse for cases being so low.
Posted by Shoddysubstance
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2020
98 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 4:58 pm to
You don't need to test if you ain't sick
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