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Louisiana congressional map creating new majority-Black district ruled unconstitutional

Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:56 am
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The three-judge panel tasked with deciding Louisiana's congressional future has ruled that the map the Louisiana Legislature drew in January that added a second majority-Black district is unconstitutional.
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"The unusual shape of the district reflects an effort to incorporate as much of the dispersed Black population as was necessary to create a majority-Black district," Summerhays and Joseph wrote in the ruling. "In the present case, the record reflects that the State could have achieved its political goals in ways other than by carving up and sorting by race the citizens of Baton Rouge, Lafayette, Alexandria, and Shreveport. Put another way, the Legislature’s decision to increase the BVAP of District 6 to over 50 percent was not required to protect incumbents and supports the plaintiffs’ contention that race was the predominate factor in drawing the district’s boundaries."


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Newly elected Governor Jeff Landry threw his support behind the map created in Senate Bill 8, which created a new seatbelt-shaped district that stretches from Shreveport to Baton Rouge along the Red River, picking up Black population centers in Alexandria, Lafayette and Natchitoches along the way.
now, you might ask...why would our new MAGA governor do such a thing?

well...
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The new map took apart the district held by Garret Graves, who'd endorsed Landry's rival Stephen Waguespack for governor.
never change, louisiana
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10904 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:58 am to
Who fukn cares...theyre all crooks
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30105 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:58 am to
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Louisiana congressional map creating new majority-Black district ruled unconstitutional


the judges ruling declaring they must create that new majority-Black district was also unconstitutional, but liberal judges dont care about constitutionality when they make their rulings

at least this judge made a correct ruling
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25391 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:59 am to
It was a very stupid map that is based on race.

It makes no sense for parts of Baton Rouge and Shreveport to share a district. Nor does it make sense for Calcasieu and Bossier to share a district or for Hammond and Monroe to share a district. Those areas are not really linked culturally or economically.

We are approaching a point where we may not be able to logically justify two districts based in north Louisiana.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2310 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:00 am to
Requiring any districts to be based on race should be unconstitutional.
Posted by BigGreenTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2022
253 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:01 am to
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Who fukn cares


I mean, this is something people should care about.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96325 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:01 am to
There are only six districts in the state.

Two of those have the Speaker of the House and the House Majority Leader.

One of those is a black majority seat.

Getting a second black majority seat means carving a district out of the ones currently held by Graves, Letlow, and Higgins. And Graves pissed off EVERYONE in power within the state over a variety of things, meaning he doesn’t have the cover to save his own arse.



If he had gotten Scalise or Johnson over the hump to be Speaker instead of backing McCarthy, he might have survived and it would have been Higgins taking the hit.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35111 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:02 am to
Just go the Iowa route and make them boxes. Our congressional districts look like a damn impressionist painting
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96325 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:05 am to
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Our congressional districts look like a damn impressionist painting


Districts are required to have an equivalent number of citizens and our population is mainly in several large cities which are divided on demographic lines.


On top of that, we have an unusually shaped state. Iowa is damn near a rectangle so there aren’t geographic problems with that.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71319 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:08 am to
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never change, louisiana


Blame the courts and the ACLUseless for this one.

Louisiana had two different maps in the 1990s with a second majority black district. The courts put the kibosh on both. There's no way to do it without grotesque gerrymandering so the state just gave up.

Then the courts turned around and decided a second black majority district was required, not prohibited. The black population still isn't contiguous enough to draw two reasonable districts. They had to come up with a district that satisfied the courts but also had a rationale outside of race.

Punishing enemies and rewarding friends is both a non racial basis and feels good if you're in charge so they ran with it.

It would be nice if the courts would make up their mind. Would also be nice if the NAACP and ACLU got the bill for the waste of resources.
Posted by SPT
Member since Jun 2014
944 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:14 am to
Always looking to blame Jeff Landry for something. Never fail prog filth
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23788 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:16 am to
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Who fukn cares

The incumbents do. The map was drawn to protect the present reps (except for Garret Graves). They are the ones that don't want a neatly shaped map. They are protecting their own bases of support. That's why Landy was all in on this map.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38896 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:18 am to
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Always looking to blame Jeff Landry for something. Never fail prog filth
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26585 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:19 am to
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We are approaching a point where we may not be able to logically justify two districts based in north Louisiana.

I believe the population up there is still high enough to not have a single district from Alexandria northward.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26585 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:20 am to
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Always looking to blame Jeff Landry for something. Never fail prog filth

Well he did endorse the map simply because he doesn't like Garrett Graves.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26585 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:21 am to
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Who fukn cares

Anyone who cares about representative government should care.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16446 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:21 am to
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It was a very stupid map that is based on race.


So is the current one that jumps back and forth across the river incorporating New Orleans but not the bank in Jefferson, West Bank only in St. Charles, and so on and includes North Baton Rouge.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26585 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:22 am to
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Districts are required to have an equivalent number of citizens and our population is mainly in several large cities which are divided on demographic lines.


On top of that, we have an unusually shaped state. Iowa is damn near a rectangle so there aren’t geographic problems with that.

It is very, very easy to draw geographically coherent districts in Louisiana, using mostly existing parish and other administrative lines.

But then we can't do everything based on race and protecting incumbents, so common sense goes out the window. I mean god forbid any of our districts be competitve.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6544 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:24 am to
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Governor Jeff Landry


The man is straight trash
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67163 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:25 am to
Let me break this down:
Supreme court requires Louisiana to create an additional minority majority district. However, Louisiana’s minority populations are too spread out, so they have to gerrymander a ridiculously shaped district to create a second black majority district. This he court rules the district unconstitutional because it’s based on race. But a court mandated them to make a district based on race?

How can it be unconstitutional to base the map on race if the same court requires maps be based on race? This is a catch-22.
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