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re: Loranger killer ADMITS he killed mom and daughter. Chalk this up to things you never see.

Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
4833 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:41 pm to
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wants lethal injection


Embalm him while he’s still alive and breathing. Let him feel it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:45 pm to
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Of course he's evil. Are you debating whether or not a man who claims he's sober, except for, in his words, being only on his depression meds, and who murdered a toddler and her mom and caged the murdered girl's sister is not crazy?

I'm not following your train of thought here. In your first post, the one I replied to, you bemoaned the state of mental healthcare in this country and said that all the crazy people need to be locked up in for-profit, private institutions. Your implication was that this dude is crazy. I said he isn't crazy, that he's evil. Then, you said, "Of course he's evil".

Whatever you mean, man. Whatever you mean.

ETA: No, he's not crazy. He almost certainly won't win a competency hearing or successfully plead insanity. He's lucid and knows exactly what he did. Hell, he told you what he did and he tried to get away with what he did by killing the girl and running.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58887 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:47 pm to
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He has half a million posts on one message board.


What if I told you Slow posts on other websites as well?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154357 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:49 pm to
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It galls your pompous arse, doesn’t it?
"And if you've ever had your arse galled, you know how painful that can be."

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154357 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:54 pm to
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He has half a million posts on one message board.

What if I told you Slow posts on other websites as well?
He claimed to have 100K on another one, called Judge My Looks* or something like that. I don't know if it still exists.

ETA: *Face The Jury I think it was.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154357 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:58 pm to
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You wouldn’t have the gumption to say that to his face
Do you mean guts?

Gumption - shrewd or spirited initiative and resourcefulness.
"She had the gumption to put her foot down and head Dan off from those crazy schemes"
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
574 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 10:04 pm to
Not everyone who is as evil as this guy has a mental health diagnosis that would have them committed to a mental institution. Some people ARE just evil. I work in a psych hospital. You wouldn't believe the amount of patients that we get who are taking up beds, acting out violently and derailing the treatment for people who have legitimate mental health problems and want help.
A lot of that is on law enforcement who find it easier to offer them the option of going to the hospital or going to jail. And we see them over and over and over. Sure, we detox people from opiates, alcohol and benzos, (many of the regulars every month) but there is no detox for meth and crack.

Unfortunately, some are just manipulative, bad people and all the mental health care in the world won’t change that.



Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12661 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:05 pm to
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I'm not following your train of thought here. In your first post, the one I replied to, you bemoaned the state of mental healthcare in this country and said that all the crazy people need to be locked up in for-profit, private institutions. Your implication was that this dude is crazy. I said he isn't crazy, that he's evil. Then, you said, "Of course he's evil".

I somewhat understand the other poster’s point.

I can see how you would take “crazy” as a cop out, given the effort to destigmatize mental health issues over the years. But I don’t think “crazy” and “evil” are mutually exclusive.

I think the other guy’s point was that the criminal justice system doesn’t do any good here until after a crime is committed, while in years past we might have locked psychopaths up before they hurt anyone.

Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing is a matter of debate (due process and whatnot) but that’s what I think he was trying to say.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:05 pm to
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Not everyone who is as evil as this guy has a mental health diagnosis that would have them committed to a mental institution. Some people ARE just evil. I work in a psych hospital. You wouldn't believe the amount of patients that we get who are taking up beds, acting out violently and derailing the treatment for people who have legitimate mental health problems and want help.

In my experience, the truly "crazy" people who aren't in active treatment don't go around telling people how crazy they are. It is like being "crazy" isn't something they are actively doing, but instead it is just what they are. The fact they're "crazy" doesn't even register with them. They don't jump up and down going, "Hey! Look at me! I'm crazy!".

You know, though. You look in those eyes, you know.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:08 pm to
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I think the other guy’s point was that the criminal justice system doesn’t do any good here until after a crime is committed, while in years past we might have locked psychopaths up before they hurt anyone.


That I can agree with. Though, we have privatized mental healthcare to a large extent in this country already while continuing to gut public mental healthcare. The reality is that mental health evaluation and treatment shouldn't fall on law enforcement.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
2421 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:56 pm to
Irony is he loved dogs. Guess it didn't translate to people and children
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72481 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:01 am to
that tweet isn't working for me.

i assume this is the same video.

Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72481 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:10 am to
Posted by Hud0326
Member since Dec 2019
424 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:28 am to
He should get one shot…not lethal injection, but Gary Plauche style
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
574 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:19 am to
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That I can agree with. Though, we have privatized mental healthcare to a large extent in this country already while continuing to gut public mental healthcare. The reality is that mental health evaluation and treatment shouldn't fall on law enforcement.


Agreed. And please read my previous post, because housing and dealing with violent offenders shouldn’t be unloaded by law enforcement onto mental health clinicians in hospitals. We do not have guards and it is unsafe for staff and for patients who are there for mental health treatment.
Some people truly ARE just evil and mental health care can’t fix that.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
11615 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:52 am to
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We have privatized mental healthcare now. Most of the people who need it can't afford it and the government has been getting out of the business of mental healthcare for decades


This is 100% correct. I have worked in both private psychiatric hospitals and the state psychiatric hospital and it’s very frustrating that this is the case, especially with the private facilities. It has to be understood that certain people need serious treatment to prevent something like this from happening and there is nowhere for them to receive it. There’s thousands of people like him who really just need to be put away for a long time before they even do anything bad, but they just spend a week or so in a private facility or jail every month and then they’re let back out on the street. It’s my understanding that the patients in Jackson aren’t sent there until they’ve come through the judicial system nowadays.

It will be extremely interesting to see how his case plays out in court, but I have a feeling that he will be deemed competent to stand trial.

ETA: I know this is a long post, but this is my line of work so I should also like to mention that someone can be certifiably mentally ill but also fit to stand trial. The biggest question is whether he was able to discern right from wrong at the time of his actions and if he is mentally fit to understand the legal proceedings that he will be going through.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 2:08 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19444 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:21 am to
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Guy will plead guilty and wants lethal injection.



Well, at least he's freely admitting to it but we all know that even if he's given the death penalty, it will likely be decades before the state pulls the trigger on the actual execution-------------and that sucks because this POS should already be dead from the minute law caught up with him.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:39 am to
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It will be extremely interesting to see how his case plays out in court, but I have a feeling that he will be deemed competent to stand trial.

I think so, too.

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The biggest question is whether he was able to discern right from wrong at the time of his actions and if he is mentally fit to understand the legal proceedings that he will be going through.

His own words kind of prove that he is. Paraphrasing: "I don't have a lawyer, I don't need a lawyer. What I did deserves lethal injection......"

I think he 100% knew/knows right from wrong. If all he was on is Lexapro and he's going with that made him do it, I'm going to need some private security if Lexapro can create a killer like that. I know too many people on it.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4646 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:14 am to
He’s enjoying the attention no doubt. Kill him now and save tax payer money. Faulty electric chair that takes a painful while to get the job done. He should not die painlessly.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61304 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:25 am to
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sex trafficking ring accomplices.


Do we have any other information about this being trafficking other then the cop mentioning cages?
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