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Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:24 am to Salmon
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the public outcry is already starting after a week
the tipping point is coming a lot sooner than I think people realize
The relatively low number of CV deaths will become more tolerable by the day as people are stuck at home with their kids all day, many of them unable to earn income, and all of us unable to socialize. People are already tuning out the Doom Porn from the media. Anyone with a brain realizes infections will skyrocket due to the increase in testing. These governors and mayors are going to start feeling the heat once the emotions and panic have substantially subsided.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:24 am to Salmon
And I get that. But like I said, they need to use different terminology.
So what happens when people now hear "shelter in place" because a green chlorine cloud is coming from a derailed tank car heading towards a neighborhood? "Oh, we were able to get in our cars just not do anything with the last shelter in place..." If they don't mean find shelter and stay there, then don't use that terminology because it could cause injury and death in a different crisis in the future.
So what happens when people now hear "shelter in place" because a green chlorine cloud is coming from a derailed tank car heading towards a neighborhood? "Oh, we were able to get in our cars just not do anything with the last shelter in place..." If they don't mean find shelter and stay there, then don't use that terminology because it could cause injury and death in a different crisis in the future.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:26 am to RealityTiger
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But like I said, they need to use different terminology.
I don't know. Write an email or something
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:26 am to RealityTiger
If there's one thing government can actually go with competence, it's create buzzwords.
"Enhanced sheltered lockdown" would just become the new phrase in your hypothetical.
"Enhanced sheltered lockdown" would just become the new phrase in your hypothetical.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:28 am to RealityTiger
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So what happens when people now hear "shelter in place" because a green chlorine cloud is coming from a derailed tank car heading towards a neighborhood? "Oh, we were able to get in our cars just not do anything with the last shelter in place..." If they don't mean find shelter and stay there, then don't use that terminology because it could cause injury and death in a different crisis in the future.
People, especially in south LA, have a far different perspective of shelter in place than others. That usually means a serious, imminent threat. This shite is completely irresponsible.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:31 am to Salmon
quote:The shelter in place will mean that hospital workers, firefighters, police, essential plant personnel - will all have to stay sequestered and sleep for weeks at their job with no shower. Regular office workers, no big deal. It's easy to just say "do it" with no hesitation. Just take a two week vacation and fire up the grill in your backyard. It's not that simple for a bunch of other trades out there. If the governor is going to issue out a shelter, don't take it as just an "oh, by the way". Make damn sure you know what you're about to do because our lives will be placed on pause for a few weeks.
Ok...people whose business is still open are still allowed to go to work..
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:31 am to upgrayedd
Radio: A tornado has touched down in your vicinity! Seek shelter immediately! Shelter in place!
Boss: you know the drill.. shelter in place means get your arse to work
Boss: you know the drill.. shelter in place means get your arse to work
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:34 am to Athis
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If you have a private gathering at your house you are an idiot and are putting other fools at risk..
You’re the fricking idiot. Wuhan virus has been here since November.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:35 am to Athis
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If you have a private gathering at your house you are an idiot and are putting other fools at risk..
By other fools you mean people who voluntarily came to your house?
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:38 am to Athis
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you have a private gathering at your house you are an idiot
I'll hoist one to my fellow idiots this weekend. Us ungrateful colonials would rather take our chances with China flu than hide like cowards.
The UK probably didnt shut down this much while the germans were bombing them.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:39 am to uway
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Have to assume FedEx and UPS wouldn't operate in shelter in place locales, meaning no Amazon
Not a chance. UPS and FedEx are not stopping.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 10:41 am
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:40 am to Walking the Earth
quote:Would be better. I don't know why it pisses me off so much, but when I hear shelter in place it means one thing. Get your arse inside and stay out of harm's way until given an all clear. That's the ONLY thing it should mean. There shouldn't be a debate about it.
If there's one thing government can actually go with competence, it's create buzzwords.
"Enhanced sheltered lockdown" would just become the new phrase in your hypothetical.
It's like, if I hear "BOMB!" then I think one thing. A bomb. It doesn't mean, "oh well that's not what they meant, they actually meant a really strong firecracker..."
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:44 am to udtiger
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I hate the sheep mentality.
50+ years of public education with zero actual civic instruction was a ripe environment for the 24/7 news cycle and social media to control the population.
Agree 100%
People are so quick to give up their rights, some even do it gleefully.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:45 am to Eat Your Crow
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FedEx are not stopping.
FedEx isn't closing here in Memphis. A couple of guys in our warehouse work nights loading cargo at the hub, they're still rocking and rolling with no plans to stop
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:49 am to jchamil
FedEx and UPS would be considered "life sustaining business"
so would O&G
so would O&G
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:54 am to RealityTiger
Because its been used wrong! Shelter in Place was originally for thing like a nuclear incident, active shooter etc.... But it has been hijacked like every other thing by the media.
If you notice CA Governor last night and Cuomo today didnt used the term when locking down their states. Cuomo even corrected a reported who tried to call it that.
I'm not a Dem/Liberal but after watching how he has carried himself the last couple of days, if he decides to run Pence will have his hands full with him in 2024.
Not saying pence cant win, but I just don't see him having the ability to unite the party like "The Donald" (WWE reference
) but hey we have 4 years to worried about that!
If you notice CA Governor last night and Cuomo today didnt used the term when locking down their states. Cuomo even corrected a reported who tried to call it that.
I'm not a Dem/Liberal but after watching how he has carried himself the last couple of days, if he decides to run Pence will have his hands full with him in 2024.
Not saying pence cant win, but I just don't see him having the ability to unite the party like "The Donald" (WWE reference
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 10:56 am
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:54 am to RealityTiger
I manage a maintenance contract at a Chemical Plant for company I work for...
If we get locked in plant, I assure you mobile showering facilities will be provided!
As well as food.
Same type of thing occurred after hurricane Rita. Personally, I'd like to get some of that, talking about minimum pay 16 hrs/day. $$$$$$$$$$
If we get locked in plant, I assure you mobile showering facilities will be provided!
As well as food.
Same type of thing occurred after hurricane Rita. Personally, I'd like to get some of that, talking about minimum pay 16 hrs/day. $$$$$$$$$$
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:55 am to Team Vote
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Anyone with a brain realizes infections will skyrocket due to the increase in testing.
I’m hoping this will be the case but everyone around me is just towing the line of the media. Really annoys me. I’m not allowed to use logic to defend my point that deaths are not skyrocketing eve though testing is expanding. They just repeat “but the hospitals will get overrun!”
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:56 am to Salmon
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so would O&G
Yeah if there wasn’t such a whacked out supply and demand situation
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