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re: Looking for parental advice from the ot re: kids travel ball

Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:39 pm to
Dude I don't have a kid and get paid to coach baseball. Sorry you want to live vicariously through your kid because you were the fatass kid who was scared of the ball growing up.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:41 pm to
My son started on a select team at age 8. He got better each year and we had a blast and made some great memories.
He just finished his freshman year in HS. He was the first freshman to make his 6A HS varsity team and became their Ace pitcher midway thru the season. He was also the first freshman pitcher to get unanimously selected to first team all district. Not a hard choice when he throws 90-91mph with great offspeed command.
Could he have done the same going thru LL? Possibly, but he faced way better competition in select ball.

I say enter him in both and let him choose the one that's the most fun for him at this age. If he's a good player, you will be getting calls from select team coaches.
Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:43 pm to
7 is too young.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:43 pm to
Your son throwing 90 (which I don't believe) as a freshman would have made any team in the country if he never played baseball in his life and showed up to tryouts. Period.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:44 pm to
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Have parents noticed that kids in travel ball tend to have a much better chance at playing in high school than kids who have the skills but only grew up through rec league


Coaches are outright asking kids at HS tryouts if they have played competitive travel ball.

If the league is high quality, you may be ok but if he wants to play HS baseball, travel ball will definitely help.

To each his own on the travel and time....he has to love it.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:45 pm to
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If the league is high quality, you may be ok but if he wants to play HS baseball, travel ball will definitely help.


Those coaches are shite then.
Posted by Riolobo
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:48 pm to
Throwing 91 as a freshmen. Nice.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Coaches are outright asking kids at HS tryouts if they have played competitive travel ball.


they don't really even have to ask....
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Dude I don't have a kid and get paid to coach baseball.


awww, the loser who can't do anything productive with his life that hasn't had any parental experience yet knows best for all parents out there
Posted by baldona
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Your son throwing 90 (which I don't believe) as a freshman would have made any team in the country if he never played baseball in his life and showed up to tryouts. Period.


Haha, exactly. I would also like to know how travel ball makes you throw harder?

Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with travel ball. I don't even know why a kid would play rec ball unless they have to in order to play travel ball?

Again, if your kid has to go through a process of being "asked" if they played travel ball then he likely isn't all that great by freshmen year. Almost everyone usually makes the Freshmen teams if they are anywhere near a decent player and I don't care how big or how good of a school you go to.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:54 pm to
That's fine. You don't have to believe me. I know what he can do. He was hitting 83 late in the season at 12. He played on TV back then. You think their radars are juiced?
BTW, he's 6'2 230.
There's a kid his age on his summer league team that throws 94. Not something I've heard. I saw it. I didn't believe it either until I saw the radar that one of the scouts at their last tourney had.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:57 pm to
In this situation I do know what's best for the parents. Especially the one who is falling into the trap that their kid must play travel baseball to make the high school team.

It is all a money grab. And not to mention playing travel ball doesn't mean shite anymore. Johnny's Dad gets pissed he isn't playing SS so he makes his own team where Johnny gets to play SS and they go 1-6 every weekend but they win the "Super" division and go to Chuck E. Cheese no matter how the team does that weekend.

Their are a lot more beneficial things your kid could be doing to be a well rounded person that being just a baseball player from the time he is 8 when he may not even like playing anymore when he is 15.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:59 pm to
Oh, and my son wants to play in purple and gold. We've been in touch with Nolan Cain and he is going to one of his camps in August.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:00 pm to
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That talent and mental capabilities are natural and will get developed by any HS coach with his salt.


Pretty much agree with the rest of that, but this is simply not true. A lucky HS coach only has 6 or 8 kids he needs to teach some of the finer skills to. I'm sure other places are different, but here HS baseball starts after Christmas break, and first games are in early March. Unless you have some nice indoor facilities, and coaches to go with them, there isn't a chance in hell that a HS coach can take several mediocre to poor players, and make them good in that amount of time.

Think about it, if you have 6 kids that really need help, a 3 hour practice gives the coach 30 minutes with each kid, and no time for the rest of the team.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:02 pm to
Agreed. The kids faced better pitching in the Houston area (where my son plays) in select ball compared to LL. The LL around us is nothing but daddy-ballers. Select is hit or miss.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:03 pm to
That is my point the kid either has it or he doesn't. If the kid has natural ability any good coach can refine it in 4 years at the high school level. A kid who can't hit or throw will never be able to hit and throw. Just the honest truth about it. The concept of going from crappy to college baseball player doesn't really happen.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11310 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:08 pm to
I've been coaching travel ball for the last 4 years. What would you like to know? Good coaches can be hard to find. Paid coaches aren't always better either. I'd say it's 50/50 dads vs paid.

The biggest advantages to him playing travel is playing at his competition level (AA-AAA-Majors)and consistent practicing. Not that games are irrelevant, but, you don't learn how to run bases, execute cut offs and bunt coverages in a game.

There should be enough tournaments in the area to not have to travel more than 90 minutes from where you are.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:09 pm to
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(AA-AAA-Majors)
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:14 pm to
What was funny about that?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:14 pm to
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Looking for parental advice from the ot re: kids travel ball


I can only offer advice in terms of basketball.

Your son/daughter is not going to get much out of rec basketball. Since you live in Mandeville send your kids to Charles Tracey and get them into the AAU program. They will play top Louisiana competition every weekend and you'll travel as far as New Orleans, Westbank, and Baton Rouge.

If you are looking for your kids to improve, rec is a waste of time. Get them in AAU.
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