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Local baw in real trouble after using questionable force as tigerland security
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:10 am
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:10 am
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Nick Fetty, who owns the security company, Delta Tactical LLC. — hired by bar owners to patrol parking lots in Tigerland — was arrested along with two of his employees. He denies any wrongdoing and asserts that the guards were justified in their actions because they believed the man may have swallowed a controlled substance while making "questionable gestures" inside his truck after failing to roll down the window.
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”They put a light in this guy’s face and started acting like cops," Blache said. In order to justify using handcuffs, security guards "must have a clear felony situation or reasonably believe that people are in danger" — two conditions that Blache said were not met in this case.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:11 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Security in that area should just be used to break up fights. Why do they care what some dude was doing inside of his parked car? Sounds like guys who couldn't cut it as actual cops and wanted to play commando or some shite.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:12 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Good. Most of those "businesses" are nothing but a bunch of thugs with an LLC designation.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:13 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Thought BRPD had cops parked in the area on the busy nights? Seems like a private security force is asking for trouble.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:15 am to lionward2014
Father son team
Father admits to “pushing the boundaries” when it comes to being a security guard lol
Father admits to “pushing the boundaries” when it comes to being a security guard lol
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:15 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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Delta Tactical LLC
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security company
Delta Tactical, LLC - Pride, LA
April 1, 2017 - License Issued Provisional/Probational
October 16, 2017 - LICENSE REVOKED
Sounds like they need to study up on a few more YouTube tactical response videos before trying again.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:18 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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Delta Tactical LLC
The name itself should've been a red flag during the hiring process
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:18 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Good. frick those douche bouncers who think they are cops that get a free pass to hit anyone.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:35 am to upgrayedd
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Delta Tactical LLC
The name itself should've been a red flag during the hiring process
I literally had an image of these two as soon as I saw the name.. LMAO
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:45 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Unless they were State commissioned law enforcement agents and I seriously doubt they were, that's their arse and it should be.
Security guards, bounty hunters, bouncers and the like are no different that you are I when it comes to the power of arrest and our legal protections. All they are really doing are engaging in a citizen's arrest which is tricky legal ground. I can literally go to a supply house right now and buy a cheesy badge and a button-down with some slacks and go walk around commercial establishments and hold myself out as a security guard. Louisiana is an open carry state so you can even strap a pistol and a holster on your hip and you would still be kosher.
Security guards, bounty hunters, bouncers and the like are no different that you are I when it comes to the power of arrest and our legal protections. All they are really doing are engaging in a citizen's arrest which is tricky legal ground. I can literally go to a supply house right now and buy a cheesy badge and a button-down with some slacks and go walk around commercial establishments and hold myself out as a security guard. Louisiana is an open carry state so you can even strap a pistol and a holster on your hip and you would still be kosher.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:22 am to nola000
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can literally go to a supply house right now and buy a cheesy badge and a button-down with some slacks and go walk around commercial establishments and hold myself out as a security guard.
Ummmm. Nope. Read the article. The whole stink is that you have to be licensed in LA and these arse clowns got their license pulled because of their shenanigans. They are fighting the state boards authority to pull their license.
Kicker is that the khakis and button down would be appropriate. These guys bought uniforms that make them look just like cops.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:48 am to deathvalleyfreak43
One of these shite companies tried to shutdown a local bar in plaquemine during Gustav. Were driving through on LA1 and took it upon themselves to do it.
Their first mistake was choosing a bar full of locals in south Louisiana. There second mistake was threatening the owner and trying to cuff him.
I hate private security.
Their first mistake was choosing a bar full of locals in south Louisiana. There second mistake was threatening the owner and trying to cuff him.
I hate private security.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:52 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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Nick Fetty, who owns the security company, Delta Tactical LLC. — hired by bar owners to patrol parking lots in Tigerland — was arrested along with two of his employees. He denies any wrongdoing and asserts that the guards were justified in their actions because they believed the man may have swallowed a controlled substance while making "questionable gestures" inside his truck after failing to roll down the window.
Wow........ This dude is a real hero
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:07 pm to jbgleason
Yes. You are correct in that there is a law that requires someone holding themselves out as a "security officer" to undergo certain training and licensing through the State but the devil is in the details.
For one, LA is an open carry State so any joe blow can carry a firearm on their hip in any place not disallowed by law.
Second, "security officer" is defined as "an individual who is principally employed by a contract security company whether armed or unarmed, to protect a person or persons or property or both, and whose duties include but are not limited to the following:". I would imagine this can be argued around in court.
Third, then theres this: "C. The provisions of this Chapter shall not apply to persons and corporations exempted by R.S. 37:3298."
What is 37:3298? Its the way the State justifies the entire section to begin with since it regulates commerce if the section only applies to security for hire:
"§3298. Inapplicability
A. This Chapter shall not apply to a person or corporation which employs persons who do private security work in connection with the affairs of such employer only and who have an employer-employee relationship with such employer. Neither such persons or corporations nor their employees shall be required to register or be licensed under this Chapter."
You are correct, however, that if they were impersonating a peace officer then they are likely in violation of several laws including being in violation of their licensing regulations per said chapter in R.S.:
"§3290. Insignias; markings; clothing; restrictions
A.(1) With the exception of sworn peace officers in police uniform, no individual, while performing the duties of a security officer, shall wear or display any badge, insignia, device, shield, patch, or pattern which shall indicate or tend to indicate that he is a sworn peace officer, or which contains or includes the word "police", or the equivalent thereof, or is similar in wording to any law enforcement agency in this state."
"B. No person, while performing any private security services, shall have or utilize any vehicle or equipment displaying the words "police", "law enforcement officer", or the equivalent thereof, or have any sign, shield, marking, accessory, or insignia that may indicate that such vehicle is a vehicle of a public law enforcement agency."
Obviously, the above laws are fairly vague and leaves open the possibility of several interpretations and much subjectivity. Thats what courts are for. Seems like tricky business to uniform a security team. Luckily, badges, insignias and uniforms must be submitted for approval so that certainly helps clear up confusion but we also know how dysfunctional LA and their various departments/agencies are. One hand doenst know what the other is doing.
Also, everything I said in my first post about bouncers and bounty hunters still applies. They have no special powers of arrest or legal protections that dont also apply to your average citizen.
For one, LA is an open carry State so any joe blow can carry a firearm on their hip in any place not disallowed by law.
Second, "security officer" is defined as "an individual who is principally employed by a contract security company whether armed or unarmed, to protect a person or persons or property or both, and whose duties include but are not limited to the following:". I would imagine this can be argued around in court.
Third, then theres this: "C. The provisions of this Chapter shall not apply to persons and corporations exempted by R.S. 37:3298."
What is 37:3298? Its the way the State justifies the entire section to begin with since it regulates commerce if the section only applies to security for hire:
"§3298. Inapplicability
A. This Chapter shall not apply to a person or corporation which employs persons who do private security work in connection with the affairs of such employer only and who have an employer-employee relationship with such employer. Neither such persons or corporations nor their employees shall be required to register or be licensed under this Chapter."
You are correct, however, that if they were impersonating a peace officer then they are likely in violation of several laws including being in violation of their licensing regulations per said chapter in R.S.:
"§3290. Insignias; markings; clothing; restrictions
A.(1) With the exception of sworn peace officers in police uniform, no individual, while performing the duties of a security officer, shall wear or display any badge, insignia, device, shield, patch, or pattern which shall indicate or tend to indicate that he is a sworn peace officer, or which contains or includes the word "police", or the equivalent thereof, or is similar in wording to any law enforcement agency in this state."
"B. No person, while performing any private security services, shall have or utilize any vehicle or equipment displaying the words "police", "law enforcement officer", or the equivalent thereof, or have any sign, shield, marking, accessory, or insignia that may indicate that such vehicle is a vehicle of a public law enforcement agency."
Obviously, the above laws are fairly vague and leaves open the possibility of several interpretations and much subjectivity. Thats what courts are for. Seems like tricky business to uniform a security team. Luckily, badges, insignias and uniforms must be submitted for approval so that certainly helps clear up confusion but we also know how dysfunctional LA and their various departments/agencies are. One hand doenst know what the other is doing.
Also, everything I said in my first post about bouncers and bounty hunters still applies. They have no special powers of arrest or legal protections that dont also apply to your average citizen.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:11 pm to jlovel7
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Security in that area should just be used to break up fights. Why do they care what some dude was doing inside of his parked car? Sounds like guys who couldn't cut it as actual cops and wanted to play commando or some shite.
Security guards put their life on the line for you every day. Cmon man back the ID card
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:12 pm to X123F45
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One of these shite companies tried to shutdown a local bar in plaquemine during Gustav.
Which bar?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:15 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
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Delta Tactical LLC
Just looking at this name, I can picture the type of imbeciles who work for the company.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:20 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Sounds like the douchebags were trying to confiscate guys molly or X.
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