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re: Livingston Parish 1% tax for teacher raises fails to pass

Posted on 3/26/23 at 11:46 am to
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6725 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 11:46 am to
I will never ever vote to give the government a bigger share of my money and vote no on current tax renewals. They have plenty already and do a poor job of managing it.
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
Somewhere in Bartow County
Member since Sep 2018
2044 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 11:59 am to
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This will cause teacher shortages in the near future.


If there is a shortage it will be the fault of the school board, not the citizens. The school boards gives it teachers ZERO support. My wife is a former LP teacher and she refuses to teach in the parish again due to how the parish treated her.

Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35646 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:10 pm to
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Ask us to help you budget and cut. We could easily lower taxes if they got some regular folks looking at the numbers. Run it like a business.



Isn’t their budget approved publicly? Aren’t the board meetings open forum for the public? I’m sure they would welcome your insight.


Every public entity is audited and the financials are public. It’s all out there for anyone to look at. But it’s easier to just repeat the meme that government has plenty of money, they just spend it poorly. Because no private company like Enron or banks or General Electric or electric companies are run poorly. All private businesses succeed. Because they are run for profit. Unless you want the government to be run for profit.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43147 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:12 pm to
Boy the teachers are hot about this one on the Facebook.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1088 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:20 pm to
Nope my wife taught in LP and lived was greatly supported by the principal and school board. If I hadn’t had to move she would still be there teaching.
I see why you’re so negative on the tax now. Your wife must have been a poor teacher for her to have had such an experience.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:23 pm to
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Well, if GRT's post is accurate than we pay 50% more for EBR students than LP. What is the right amount? Because there doesn't seem to be a positive correlation between funding and results.


The two things are not that connected. We can still take pride in our schools, pay professionals well, and not participate in a race to the bottom.

I'm not sure the "oh yeah what you gonna do? go to Baton Rouge? lol" approach is the winning approach.

OTers mostly agree that making less than $100k sucks so it's fascinating to watch them act like teachers make good salaries.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1088 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:23 pm to
Any chance you can give specifics on how the school board wastes?
Unfortunately in this incident the teachers and staff are being punished for national and state politics.
I love how these right wingers are using the left wing playbook of disinformation and generalities.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:29 pm to
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Any chance you can give specifics on how the school board wastes?


Well first off would be all the signs the school board paid for and stuck up all over LP only to be told they had to remove them.

That being said, I bet more of the reason for voting the tax down was because taxpayers are smart enough to figure out there was something missing from the accounting school board members were releasing about this pay raise for teachers. The missing element was the future impact on the retirement cost which Murphy seemed to completely ignore. There was also plenty of other fuzzy math that had people I know in LP concerned enough to turn it down.
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
Somewhere in Bartow County
Member since Sep 2018
2044 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:35 pm to
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Your wife must have been a poor teacher for her to have had such an experience.


I expected for you to respond to my post with a comment like this And as matter of fact, my wife was nominated “teacher of the year” in her district and had the highest test scores at her current school.

There’s a handful of former LP teachers also at her school and all had the same experience as her in LP. Good for your wife though that she enjoyed teaching in Livingston because it was the exact opposite with my wife and her colleagues.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1088 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:36 pm to
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Well first off would be all the signs the school board paid for and stuck up all over LP only to be told they had to remove them


You are like CNN all misinformation. The only signs that had to be moved were the ones at the polls on the day of voting. I called the clerk of courts and checked on that when people started claiming this.

The retirement and benefits would be covered. That has been stated and proved.

There was something missing and seemed fuzzy. Lol glad you could really pin down the waste.

ETA: how do you down vote this? Everything I posted was fact checked. Some refuse to see truth if it goes against there narrative.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1088 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:41 pm to
I apologize for that. It was a cheap shot. Purely anecdotal on my part, the teachers I’ve known that have been good had mostly good experiences, teachers that weren’t good had poorer experiences. Hope your wife continues to do well.

ETA: I will say my experience with LP schools and even school board has been overwhelmingly positive from an employer for my wife to educator of my kids. Wish we could have stayed.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38389 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Some of the worst school districts in country have the most funding
working in one of these districts I can confirm. I get paid really well comparatively speaking but our district is garbage, sadly.
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
Somewhere in Bartow County
Member since Sep 2018
2044 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:54 pm to
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I apologize for that. It was a cheap shot. Purely anecdotal on my part, the teachers I’ve known that have been good had mostly good experiences, teachers that weren’t good had poorer experiences. Hope your wife continues to do well.


Thank you. The husband of my wife’s principal at her former school sat on the school board so a lot of issues at her school were being covered up. Said principal got away with a lot of things and ended up running off over 20 teachers at the end of the year including my wife. I know very school is different but alot of bridges were burned because of that school.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1088 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:00 pm to
I probably know of the situation you are referring. Gladly that seems to be the exception and not the rule.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:01 pm to


The new BRPD Tahoe is well over $100K
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Why would you not give them raises?


Why should my fixed income parents give them a higher percentage of tax in an inflationary period? 10.5% of increased prices is even more. Blood out of a stone.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1088 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:10 pm to
So schools continue to thrive, property values don’t fall, better educated public= less crime????
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58762 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:13 pm to
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fixed income
unless you are on commission, who isn’t on a fixed income?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:15 pm to
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So schools continue to thrive, property values don’t fall, better educated public= less crime????


So tack on another 1% to one of the highest sales taxes in the country while sales tax is already bringing in more money due to inflation. If schools were proactive about getting rid of the dog shite teachers, I think people would be far, far more willing to pay.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:16 pm to
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unless you are on commission, who isn’t on a fixed income?


Fixed income has always been a term to describe elderly retired folks, so take your semantics games elsewhere.
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