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re: Little League Baseball Really is the Worst. What Happened?

Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:39 am to
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:39 am to
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soccer
soccer is for commies and Arabs and commie Arabs.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:40 am to
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This doesn’t seem believable or must have been an absolutely HUGE school. There were 114 boys that wanted to play middle school Baseball at one school? How fricking big is this middle school? There had to have been some absolutely terrible players that tried out.


Our 9-12 alone has 2000. Middle is over 1000 kids. The 7th grade alone had over 50 kids try out. It’s out of the norm for sure, but it’s a stacked class. The JV has had 2 scrimmages this week and won 1st 27-5 and yesterday 15-3.
Posted by Duffnshank
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:43 am to
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Shreveport Dixie teeball last year. Bossier Dixie teeball 2 years ago. Back to back state teeball champs for da haters!!!!!!!

What was the name of y’all’s team?
Posted by notbilly
alter
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:46 am to
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The truth is rec ball has gone the way of the dodo and if your kid has any interest in growing as a ballplayer, there is really only the option of travel ball.


Some kids just like to play sports and don't need to play 60 baseball games in the spring season alone. I honestly like my kids playing rec sports. There is a better chance of my kids growing up to be successful as a doctor or lawyer or entrepreneur, etc than a D1 baseball player. So I make sure they focus on school, but we play seasonal sports. My kids played soccer, football, baseball, and basketball by the time they were 8. But everything has been rec leagues and I don't give a shite about trophies and rings. The kids are socializing and being active.

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If you have not played competitive ball, you aren't playing on the HS team, period. Much less college.

For the most part, you are correct about this. But many small high school baseball rosters have kids that didn't play travel ball. But the odds are still strongly against all the travel ball kids to play beyond high school. Many of them quit baseball before high school anyway.

90-95% chance that a high school player won't play any level of college ball.
98% chance that high school baseball player will not make a D1 roster.
99.5% chance that a high school player will not get drafted to play professionally.
Barely 20,000 players have ever reached the MLB in the history of the sport. However, there are probably more than 20,000 current little leaguers whose parents are convinced their son will make the MLB.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:47 am to
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My son did this scoring from second on a double in a scrimmage this past weekend. It earned him a lap and ten push-ups from his coach. The lesson was humility and sportsmanship. Save that shite for the dugout.




That's bad when you unknowingly admit to letting another man show your son how to act right.
Posted by notbilly
alter
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:51 am to
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That's bad when you unknowingly admit to letting another man show your son how to act right.



It takes a village. My son's coach corrects them all the time. Kids push limits. It's what they do. The coach corrects that at practice and the games. I reinforce on the ride home.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:59 am to
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90-95% chance that a high school player won't play any level of college ball.
98% chance that high school baseball player will not make a D1 roster.
99.5% chance that a high school player will not get drafted to play professionally.
Barely 20,000 players have ever reached the MLB in the history of the sport.


99% of parents in tournament baseball know this.

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However, there are probably more than 20,000 current little leaguers whose parents are convinced their son will make the MLB.


99% of parents in tournament baseball do not believe this. But keep spouting it off.

You spouting off this nonsense would be like me saying:

Hey if your kid cannot handle competitive sports then they won't be a successful doctor, lawyer or entrepreneur.

See? It is hogwash.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:59 am to
My son played rec ball for soccer, basketball, football, and baseball, and golf and played high school tennis for the school. I hope rec teams don’t go away, it was a good experience for him. As a young adult, he can play decently in almost any sport for fun, and it kept him in shape.
Posted by TCO
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:11 am to
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soccer is for commies and Arabs and commie Arabs.


You sure? The Northshore is pretty conservative and it’s by far the #1 sport. EPL is rapidly growing in popularity and MLB is on the decline.

Oh, and uh, baseball is for white trash with a little extra money.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:30 am to
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Most parents just want their kid to be in a competitive team environment learning life skills and being outside


most reasonable parents do.

But most parents with kids playing travel ball here in S LA only care about their kid winning a stupid arse plastic ring above all else.

You don't spend $5k on a 10 year old playing baseball b/c you want your kid to learn life skills and be outside.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 11:26 am to
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Wonder how school consolidation has affected things… most areas don’t have the little schools they used to.


It’s like that for cheerleading, too. These girls (and guys i guess) have a less than 1 percent chance of doing it at the high school level after training for it since they could walk.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 11:37 am to
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There is a better chance of my kids growing up to be successful as a doctor or lawyer or entrepreneur, etc than a D1 baseball player.


This meme is so played out and incorrect. Like a ton of people in this thread have said, NOBODY playing ‘travel ball’ in the 7-12 year old range is doing it in hopes of playing college ball. It’s an absolutely ignorant thing for you and everyone else to say. It makes your whole argument seem petty and filled with sour grapes. Also, nobody (that is doing this right) is playing 60 games in a season. That’s just another absurd exaggeration that you people throw out there that is just blasphemous. From August - November, we played a grand total of about 25-30 games, all within 25 miles of where we are located



If you want some downfalls of ‘travel ball’, here, I’ll give you some legit complaints:

Yes, there are some weekends for my family that are booked up with baseball

It CAN be pricey, when you include travel, equipment, etc…. But aren’t most hobbies?

I have dealt with a pain in the arse parent, but they only lasted a season and a half because of their actions. This should be fun, and if it isn’t, then changes need to be made. That’s the best part of having a ‘private’ team

Sometimes during the week, I don’t feel like practicing



That’s what I can think of off the top of my head. But it’s nowhere near as bad as the OT says it is. Y’all’s opinion of ‘travel ball’ has snowballed out of control


I’ve asked, and I’ve seen other people ask: for those of y’all who are railing so hard on it, in what capacity were you involved, and how long did you do it? I haven’t seen one person answer this, so I can only assume that people are talking out of their asses. Go figure
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 11:40 am
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 11:42 am to
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But most parents with kids playing travel ball here in S LA only care about their kid winning a stupid arse plastic ring above all else. You don't spend $5k on a 10 year old playing baseball b/c you want your kid to learn life skills and be outside.





It’s comical at this point. There is nothing in your post that is true, not one thing
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Also, nobody (that is doing this right) is playing 60 games in a season



most of these tournament teams are playing 10+ tourneys. I know we are playing in 10 of them this year, for a 9-10 year old. Starts in February, ends in June, and it's pretty much every single weekend. that's a minimum of 30 games. any decent team is going to play about 40 games. Good teams are going to play 50+, and that's assuming it was just 10 tourneys.

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It CAN be pricey, when you include travel, equipment, etc…. But aren’t most hobbies?


No, most kids sports shouldn't cost thousands of dollars to play. I'd bet i've paid twice as much just this year for my 9 year olds baseball team than my dad paid for me to play baseball, basketball and soccer from age 7 to 16.

Kids baseball in South Louisiana is a business that cares about making money, not making kids better.


When a kid is really good at soccer in Europe, he gets invited to play for a club, for free. You know why this is? b/c if he gets good, then that club will own his rights as he gets older, and can eventually sell him to a bigger club. That's how they make money. They only make money if the kids they are training actually get better.

When a kid is really good at baseball in America and wants to play the best competition, he has to fork out thousands of dollars a year to play on some travel ball team.



I will support my kid and let him play the sports he likes, but i can't fricking stand how baseball is run in Baton Rouge and in South LA in general.
I was really excited about LIttle League at Traction. Really great that every travel team in the area didn't allow their players to play Little League. The other rec option is through BREC i think. Saw an advertisement for it and it said there would be police at every game. Gee that makes me feel comfortable that a police officer has to be at a fricking little league game. other option is playing at the Y or Istrouma or Healing Place and it is a joke if you're looking for any competition whatsoever, so all you're left with is playing travel ball by the time they are 9-10 and up. IT's fricking stupid.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28553 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:03 pm to
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It’s comical at this point. There is nothing in your post that is true, not one thing




your naivety is cute.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6793 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:10 pm to
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Yeah, some on this thread accused my dad of having dementia because he said that as a kid in the midwest in the 50s, no parents were involved. By high school, of course they had coaches and all that, but it wasn’t like it is now. But i think the parent extreme involvement permeates all areas of society, not just sports. Kids don’t just play anymore.


I never said there were no parents there. However, I'm from a very small town and most kids were dropped off at practice or rode their bikes once they were around 9-10 years old. There usually was a dad or 2 that coached, but not tons of parent involvement.

Parents, kids friends (girls like me), brothers and sisters, were all at the ball fields watching, pretty much because we were in a small town with nothing to do. 12 year old sisters worked in the concession stand. I graduated from HS in 1979, so this was the 70s.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:12 pm to
Is traction nice? Never been, but heard good things
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
40987 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:13 pm to
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NOBODY playing ‘travel ball’ in the 7-12 year old range is doing it in hopes of playing college ball.


I wanted my son to make the US national team. He could have…
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:41 pm to
League ball = USA bats
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5913 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 2:06 pm to
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This meme is so played out and incorrect.

I was replying to a post shitting on rec ball and saying that kids needed to play completive ball so they could play high school and college ball.

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... the 7-12 year old range ..... Also, nobody (that is doing this right) is playing 60 games in a season. That’s just another absurd exaggeration that you people throw out there that is just blasphemous.

Traction is the biggest baseball org in Baton Rouge. Last year, their 7-year-old Canes teams played b/t 55-60 games (57 if my memory is correct) for the season and some of those kids then played summer ball. Their third-tier (white) 8U team is scheduled for 11 tournaments b/t February and June this year. Their goal is to play 60 games this season. The top-tier teams (black and red) travel further and are more competitive and will probably play more games.

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