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Lit Pizza closed in Lake Charles over the weekend...

Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:51 pm
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11277 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:51 pm
Took the kids by there over the weekend and had a sign up they closed for good. Its a shame. We always enjoyed their food.

Is it high rents, bad workforce, finding good help, etc?. Its a shame most decent restaurants don't survive in LC. I'm sure it will be another mexican joint soon.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Is it high rents, bad workforce, finding good help, etc?

CRE is still valued way too high and rents are insane.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
7678 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Is it high rents, bad workforce, finding good help, etc?


Yes
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
5921 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:57 pm to
You need to try that Mongolian grill on Nelson. Fantastic.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5945 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:01 pm to
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You need to try that Mongolian grill on Nelson. Fantastic.


I've heard that from others, as well. I still haven't been though. I need to go.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52459 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Is it high rents, bad workforce, finding good help, etc?.


Yes. But that’s the restaurant biz.

What’s kicking a lot of places in the teeth is yet another surge in food pricing. If you aren’t a massive chain with clout to negotiate cheaper prices you get eaten alive by distributors
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
51113 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:26 pm to
he tried to expand way too fast
the quality is hit or miss at Lit Pizza
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4467 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:31 pm to
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high rents, bad workforce, finding good help, etc?.


Could be any of these… more than likely not enough customers… “craft burger and pizza” joints going always have a hard time
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
5595 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:35 pm to
True. That shopping center in front of Market Basket on Nelson only has that cookie place rented out. It’s been like that for awhile.

I also think LC has too many restaurants for the population. It seems like every year a few restaurants will shut down while a few open as well.
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
2669 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:37 pm to
Terrible pizza imo
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452474 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:49 pm to
That's the restaurant business. Absolutely unstable.

But the rent is too damn high. Doesn't help.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52459 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:55 pm to
On average, 4/5 restaurants close in first 5 years.

A third fail in their first year.

The issue isnt really the overall number honestly even American eating habits.

It’s having the right concept and price point in the right place. There have been plenty of places with great execution that failed because it didn’t match well with the location.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11277 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:56 pm to
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But the rent is too damn high. Doesn't help.


I've heard this from multiple people. High rents have killed many a restaurant here in town. You would think these landlords would give a little for the sake of commercial enterprise.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52459 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:00 pm to
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But the rent is too damn high. Doesn't help.


You should see some of the terms I hear about over the past 5 years. Annual increases of 10-15%, or terms requiring 15% of gross revenue.

Absolutely absurd. Treating restaurants as a golden goose as opposed to a business with low margins. The worst ones are the stories of a mom and pop making it by for years, and once they finally building momentum and start getting ahead, then they are pushed to close because of sudden rent increases far beyond CPI.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:01 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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452474 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:00 pm to
If local landlords have issues, they just sell to bigger CRE firms.

The problem is that CRE, nationally, is a shite show.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452474 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:03 pm to
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The worst ones are the stories of a mom and pop making it by for years, and once they finally building momentum and start getting ahead, then they are pushed to close because of sudden rent increases far beyond CPI.


I can't think of the specific examples, but a couple faced just this and had to close.

I imagine uprooting and moving a kitchen setup is extraordinarily expensive and landlords try to use this as their leverage.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6282 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:04 pm to
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the quality is hit or miss at Lit Pizza


Same with Izzo's.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52459 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:05 pm to
That and a lot of the investment building up regulars. That’s where the momentum comes in. If you aren’t a McD that folks just know what is served and what they would like, it takes time to break into a new location.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10085 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:06 pm to
Lit Pizza is garbage
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5552 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:15 pm to
Wife and I went there one night since we were living in the apartments next to Kroger cause Laura. They demanded you wear a mask to order but could take it off to eat.Thats the last time I entered the place.
Little Kemo says the Ching Chong place in the former Johnnys spot is da bomb.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:17 pm
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