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re: Lip fillers and Botox.

Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:47 am to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:47 am to
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In my “hood” we call them DSL, ill let you ponder what that might mean :wink: dont knock them until you try then on your “you know what”!
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:48 am to
I think it's interesting how our minds associate some of this stuff over time with being vapid and awful. At least for me.

I'm not talking about the extremes, but if I see an attractive excessively made up woman with fillers, etc. I don't go "whoa she's like instagram model hot" I immediately think "she looks insufferable."

And that's not some refusal to acknowledge that the hypothetical woman is hot in a vacuum, but it's so bad these days that it's impacted how your brain makes the associations.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:03 am to
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:08 am to
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Women don't do fillers and botox for us men...they do it for each other as if they are locked in a competition to see who can look the most ridiculous


Its like the interviews with some women who talk about how some guy should pay hundreds of dollars for a first date because they got their nails and hair "did". And spend a bunch of money on a dress and perfume.

When all that most guys want is for them to shower (not stink), wear clean clothes (that they already own), and comb their hair.

All that other stuff is for themselves or other women.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:08 am to
Aging gracefully > chasing youth

In appearance
In demeanor
In self respect
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:52 am to
It also doesn't help already ugly women become attractive
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:02 pm to
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When all that most guys want is for them to shower (not stink), wear clean clothes (that they already own), and comb their hair.


That reminds me of this tweet....

Posted by JoBo68
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:54 pm to
Wish I had bought stock in this stuff a few years ago. At least get some benefit from it
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:16 pm to
It’s social media that is selling this to women. Not just figuratively selling as in “you need to look like this,” but literal selling products. Women have always been the biggest consumers, been more susceptible to being influenced by current trends, but now that they’re making their own money and aren’t as financially dependent on men, they have all this extra money to spend on self love/self care bullshite.

Not that there’s not a healthy place for self care, but spending $1,000/month on fillers, skin care, travel, etc…when you make $50,000/year is not that healthy sweet spot. But what’s terrifying, is just how much younger these women/girls are getting into this.

I got TikTok about a year ago, because I’ve got a couple of buddies who send me a bunch of music stuff. Mainly videos of bands/djs we all used to like. But I’ve never made a post, probably have spent less than an hour on it total, and really have no idea how to navigate it, I don’t know what I’m even seeing when I open it.

But a few months ago I got sent a video and watched it. Then I checked to see how many friends I have—it’s less than 10. And underneath it was giving me all these friend suggestions. However their algorithm suggests them. But I saw an account belonging to my 12-year-old daughter’s friend. Maybe her number is in my contacts or her mom’s or dad’s, I don’t know how it connected us. My daughter doesn’t have one. At least not that I’m aware of.

Anyway, I clicked on this 12/13-year-old girls account. She didn’t have many posts, but was following like 500 people. That seemed unusually high for me, so I clicked on who she was following. And there was some stuff on there—not completely inappropriate, but not people I’d want my daughter following. Anyway, not my kid, not my business.

But I was shocked by just how many people/businesses she was following that were all about skin care and other self care nonsense that a 12/13 year old girl has no business worrying about at that age.

They are targeting them younger and younger. There are 10 year olds out there that have their own morning and bedtime skin care routines. It’s insane. I get a 30/40 something year old wanting to take care of her skin. But a 12-year-old? And this is only to normalize this shite, so they can gradually introduce and Trojan Horse more and more dangerous and insidious shite.

These younger generations of young girls, hell, and boys, are fricked. Especially when the parents that should be monitoring them and what they are watching are too busy doing the same shite themselves. Hard for a mom to come discipline their daughter on their social media usage, when they’ve just spent the past 4 hours glued to it themselves.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5054 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:17 pm to
Social media has turned the younger generations of women into self-absorbed, insecure, narcissistic, hive-minded beings who copy and paste trends from other people.
Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:18 pm to
Taking care of yourself physically will go a long way. Wearing sunscreen. Wrinkles are inevitable but staying in good shape physically, building and keeping muscle as we get older is key.
But is true that there is a huge double standard between men and women aging.
Social Media is horrible for young girls self esteem. That’s where a mother comes into play.
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:46 pm to
Kinda like men taking TRT
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:05 pm to
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Social Media is horrible for young girls self esteem. That’s where a mother comes into play.


That’s part of the insidiousness. They started with the mothers. And they bought it. How’s a 40-year-old mother gonna spend 30 minutes on her nightly skincare routine and then go talk to her 12-year-old about self esteem and not to get caught up in all that on TikTok. Right before she goes and plugs back into….TikTok.

It’s hard to blame women, though, no matter their generation. They were—and continue to be—specifically targeted.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:12 pm to
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Kinda like men taking TRT


You make a fair point. But TRT doesn’t do much unless you’re in the gym doing the work. And there’s been a significant increase in woman doing hormone replacement therapy themselves. At the very 1st sign of perimenopause, they’re right in those same clinics getting HRT. Hell, they aren’t even waiting on signs of their perimenopause, those that places will put any man who walked in the door on TRT and they do the same for women.

Regardless, that’s a million times better than all the fillers and shite.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 12:10 am to
I'll give you a take that'll go down some winding roads.
A lot of "normal" women are extremely shallow and superficial. To the point that MLK's famous "content of their character" quote goes against their general perception of the world. I'm not saying all women are like this. Michelle Thaller gave the JRE one of the best content episodes I've heard in a while. And there are others, like Ewin Tang, but these types of females are exceptions to what's normal in our current society. It's much more common for a female's interests to be confined to doing hair, nails, makeup, going to the gym, etc. Lip fillers and botox are next stops down this track for a lot of women who don't value "natural", or get their minds warped away from it by corporate manipulation. Corporations have found a lot of success angling for this psychological mix of vanity, narcissism, insecurity, and trend following.
Going back to the JRE, when Weinstein does his usual bemoaning of Edward Witten and quantum gravity, it makes me think of other factors for a lack of deep progress in physics. One is STEM programs that are designed with diversity as a priority. Again, there are exceptions. Thaller, Tang, Margaret Hamilton, Hedy Lamarr. But when you look back at major inventions and discoveries, I think that you're looking at mostly males because it's more of a male psychology to have deep ideas about the world outside of one's personal life. I also think being a trailblazer is more of a male thing.
That's my take on part of part of the why. But then why do they think it looks good? That makes me question the judgment of a lot of females. Obviously what "looks good" is a subjective thing that varies among different people, but it never looks good to me. The corporate aspect again seems to be a factor. Similar to how food corporations influence people to buy and prefer artificial foods over more natural, healthier options.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41439 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 12:28 am to
We want mid flat chested chicks? Nah
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/29/26 at 12:52 am to
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Wearing sunscreen.


Let's not get weird.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
5127 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 6:24 am to
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It’s social media that is selling this to women.


This. The typical American female doom scrolls all day. Before that it was thumbing through fashion magazines all of the time.

They’re being brainwashed into what they think they should be (and also politics).
Posted by CarpeDiem
Member since Dec 2011
682 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:20 am to
A lot of money is being made on convincing them that they do not look good enough.

I also wonder if it’s a status symbol thing. Botox and fillers are expensive. Getting work done is another way to show the world they have access to money.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:34 am to




NFL reporter Annie Agar before and after whatever the frick she did.

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