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re: Leave BR City Park Golf Course Open

Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:22 am to
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6616 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:22 am to
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What areas are underutilized? The west side of Dalrymple is heavily programmed and sees a good crowd. Brooks Park


There you go. Utilize Brooks Park as an urban central park. Develop it and make it safe before you turn City Park into what Brooks Park currently is do to lack of use.
Until you utilize Brooks Park the argument that you don’t have enough space doesn’t hold water.
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
13310 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:23 am to
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jbgleason

It's 9 holes. The course is definitely a goat ranch but where else can a non-country club kid learn the game without spending an arm and a leg? A $10 green fee doesn't equate to good greens or conditions but it is affordable for beginners and hackers. Plus you can play it in less than 2 hours and it's right in the middle of the city.
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:25 am to
I don't think it was always a space issue. I mean the course was getting such little play that they had to let the hipsters play on the course too with "foot golf".

I'll play it once or twice a year when I only have time for a quick 9 holes, but the course itself is terrible and only marginally improved following the renovations 10 or so years ago.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17150 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:26 am to
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As City Park has developed, it is really becoming a recreational activity center with high traffic. The tennis facility improvement have been a tremendous success. The new croquet field next to the courts will offer something for children, seniors, or others enjoying a leisurely outdoor activity (particularly from the surrounding neighborhood. The dog park and revised play ground are always crowded, while the walking path and open areas encourage walking, jogging, exercise classes, etc. The golf course enables casual golf for beginners or people out for fun. These all seem to go hand in hand.

It would be somewhat disappointing if these were somehow realigned into a civic center park of sorts where people just hang out. The golf helps keep active, healthy people there on site through out the day. Tennis is busy at night. Any shady characters are greatly out-numbered by legitimate people. Turn this into simply a glorified gathering place, and I doubt the area stays as vibrant around the clock.


You are also forgetting they added foot golf to the course. Lots of young guys out there drinking beer kicking a soccer ball around.

I had one group clear out of my way while I made my approach shot on 7. As I struck the ball ball they yelled in unison, "Get in the Hole!!!!" and cheered rauchously for me as I landed very close to the pin.

I'd love for them to add disc golf to the course
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 11:27 am
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2337 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:29 am to
The golf hardly keeps many people on site all thru the day. In 2017, there were just over 10,400 rounds played. That is an average of 28 rounds per day. More likely is that 70-80% of the rounds are on Fri-Sun, then that puts about 50 rounds per day on the weekends and around 13 per day during Mon-Thurs. Hardly the highest and best use for that large of an area. Could be turned into signature area for the City and lower maintenance cost in the long run.

My son (13) and I played there 2 weekends ago. Good for kids and beginners, sure, but so is Webb, Dumas, and Clark. I would much rather see a signature park type space there than the golf course.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27153 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:31 am to
Brooks Park is hindered from ever getting much traffic due to shitty access to the site. Unless you're on foot, you have to enter it from the west. It's essentially a dead-end.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6616 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:42 am to
That’s part of development needs of Brooks Park. Spend the money creating safe access instead of just letting all the green space go totally unused.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85044 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:45 am to
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The local hood rat kids would wait in the woods, run out and steal the balls when they landed and then sell them to other golfers for $0.25 each.



True, and saw a guy chase a hood rat down that did this and beat the crap out of him. Kid was like 12 years old.

We still talk about how funny that was. We knew the guy, and he had a short fuse...
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23183 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 11:58 am to
OP is right. City Park has lots of green space that still sits there like decoration.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6616 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

True, and saw a guy chase a hood rat down that did this and beat the crap out of him. Kid was like 12 years old. We still talk about how funny that was. We knew the guy, and he had a short fuse...


Was his name Rusty by chance? I had a similar experience with a guy named Rusty. Couple of kids from the hood were walking across the course and he chased them with his 3 iron yelling “ I don’t go walking across your basketball court when you’re playing!“
I couldn’t stop laughing.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12398 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
I play golf, Ive played many rounds at city park and its a colossal waste of space.. Close it with a master plan on what to do with the property, Use some of that 9 figure piggy bank that BREC is currently sitting on.. Make an amphitheater, add an Insectarium or something to work with the knock knock museum.. There are so many good ideas that could be put forth other than a run down golf course.
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2935 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:05 pm to
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My son (13) and I played there 2 weekends ago. Good for kids and beginners, sure, but so is Webb, Dumas, and Clark. I would much rather see a signature park type space there than the golf course.



This is where you completely lost it. One JS Clark is THE goat pasture. It is flat and unimaginative. I love city park and consider it my home course because it doesn't get old playing there. Tee box on 4 is hitting over the train tracks to a green you can't see, 5 and 6 are par 3 over water. 7 has a high tee box location and hitting over a second hill. Ive had my first and only hole in one on 9.
JS Clark is straight, flat, boring, "let me get 9 holes in 30 minutes" golf
Dumas doesn't know how to keep the greens green. Once had absolutely no grass on the greens because someone used the wrong sprayer

And further, city park is huge with the retirement community. So yes there are more rounds played on the weekend, but I can promise the difference is not that severe.

Its so great going out on a day and playing 9 holes for $7 and walking the course.

Been playing there for 5 years and never had anyone steal my ball and try to sell it to me. Got enough I'd laugh at them and play a new ball.

Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6616 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Ive played many rounds at city park and its a colossal waste of space.


Well you contradicted yourself there. How can you play many rounds there and have it be a waste of space at the same time?

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:09 pm to
It’s a bad 9 hole course that’s seeing declining use.

The property should be used for something else.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:10 pm to
City Park is a great confidence builder course when you haven't played in a while...
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12398 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:10 pm to
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Well you contradicted yourself there. How can you play many rounds there and have it be a waste of space at the same time?



As in its convenient but could be put to better use as something else.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27153 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:16 pm to
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Spend the money creating safe access instead of just letting all the green space go totally unused.


You'd have to relocate a cemetery, do a few million in drainage work, or fight the railroad to gain vehicular access from Dalrymple. That gains you access to nine acres, whereas the golf course is 40 acres and it already has access.

And you know as as well as I know, fixing safety in that area is easier said than done. Old South ain't exactly being gentrified at a rapid rate.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67210 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:16 pm to
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I play golf, Ive played many rounds at city park and its a colossal waste of space.. Close it with a master plan on what to do with the property, Use some of that 9 figure piggy bank that BREC is currently sitting on.. Make an amphitheater, add an Insectarium or something to work with the knock knock museum.. There are so many good ideas that could be put forth other than a run down golf course.


How about a parking garage and a zoo?
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6616 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:26 pm to
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whereas the golf course is 40 acres and it already has access.


Now you get into the issue of the affect on the neighborhood and the streets. The access to an urban Central Park at the present golf course would undoubtedly include cluttering up the surrounding neighborhood with cars and undesirable foot traffic creating a convenient crime opportunity.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2337 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

And further, city park is huge with the retirement community. So yes there are more rounds played on the weekend, but I can promise the difference is not that severe


There you have it. Old people with money like it and don't want to see change. Typical impediments to progress in Baton Rouge.

All the BREC courses except Beaver Creek and Santa Maria are terrible. Just because City Park has a couple holes that go up and down a 30' hill doesn't make it a good course. I don't care how you skew the numbers. Call it 60/40 weekend to weekday, which is 40 rounds/day and 20 rounds/day. If you have a course in the middle of a city getting only 40-50 rounds/day on a weekend and 10-20 rounds a day on a weekday, then that course is terrible.
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