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re: LEAP results: EBR continues to decline

Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:04 pm to
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Hopefully St. George will follow suit.


I heard the representative for St. George on the radio nearing the vote.

he was asked "if you could just give up everything and get the schools, your original goal, would you concede everything else?"

he said no

that attitude is why we don't have it.
Posted by Womski
Squire Creek
Member since Aug 2011
2762 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:08 pm to
Racist resulrs
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9504 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:34 am to
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Dunno. Blacks kept to themselves mostly. Just as tragic for them as they had to wake up early and go to a school they never knew existed. Not much old school spirit for them. It wasnt their neighborhood.


Yeah, another downside of busing: those kids had to catch the bus home after school, so couldn't stay around to play sports, which might have helped ingrain them into the school community. Baker got some really talented athletes from Scotlandville that played football and ran track, and we were close enough for them to get rides home and for their parents to watch games. Our Band improved too.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4900 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:07 pm to
Ascension Parish always seems to score high despite factoring in the under performing west bank of the parish. An argument could be crafted that AP challenges St Tammany as the best school district in the state.

Tax money doing work in AP, at least with education concerns.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:11 pm to
Ascension is pumping a lot of resources into Donaldsonville area trying to pull those scores up. That is what is holding them back really.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43074 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:25 pm to
SG initially went to the legislature trying to get the ISD, and they were rebuffed twice. They were told they had to incorporate first.

That's what started the incorporation idea.

The fact is there has been no SG vote is because the status quo has fought the movement tooth and nail. First the ISD and now the city.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:27 pm to
Except they are 2nd best to Zachary school district.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43074 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:07 pm to
That's the perception, and it'd be hard to argue otherwise.

Someone needs to run the numbers to see what it all means. The base has shrunk, but how much?

The hospitals don't matter, I believe they do not pay property taxes and they did keep all of the Mall anchor stores. How much of a hit were these annexations? I don't know, but PR wise it hurt.

But forces opposing SG aren't sleeping. They are sggressive.

Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2642 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:13 pm to
I really want it to pass as well. Moved to Houston last year and wanted to get back to family in Baton Rouge eventually, but it's such a crapshow from the outside looking in. Can't justify moving back and stifling my career path, when I'll have to pay private school and state income tax.
The status quo defense is nauseating, but luckily they're being led by Weston-Broome now, so SG might just happen!
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9504 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:14 pm to
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The fact is there has been no SG vote is because the status quo has fought the movement tooth and nail


Well, they now realize what the loss of Zachary and Central has done to the school system as a whole, and SG is the last such area remaining. If SG goes, there's really nothing positive left.

Baker, which began the whole separate system movement in EBRP, did it too late. EBRP doesn't want them back.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:15 pm to
from my understanding the SG boundaries have shrunk. By a good bit. Even then those annexations are hurting its chances.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:19 pm to
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Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:26 pm to
Problem is that they want to hold onto the status quo, and demand higher taxes for it, without doing a goddamn thing to really fix the issues.

People in the St George area are still going to continue the past trends of going to private/parochial schools if they can afford it or picking up and moving to better school systems if not.
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2642 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:33 pm to
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The gungho supporters of the movement can say what they want publicly, but they have to see the writing on the wall. 

I appreciate the honesty in your posts, but I see it a different way. I think that they are shrinking the footprint in response to what happened last time. They saw that they were called racist even though they tried to incorporate every bit of the unincorporated areas. If you're going to be called racists either way, it might as well just encompass the area you have the most support. It will probably pass this time, and as people see it flourish, the neighboring areas will request SG annexation.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18290 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:45 pm to
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You can have a school with extremely qualified teachers and a blank check for funding, but if it's filled with culcha it will still be a shithole and a failing school.


100% truth.

Upvoted and reposted.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43074 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Well, they now realize what the loss of Zachary and Central has done to the school system as a whole, a

Honestly, they are fighting for money and power. They don't care about the schools.

There are millions of tax dollars at stake, and control over those dollars and who decides how they are spent is the real impetus.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:35 pm to
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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43074 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:57 pm to
quote:


I appreciate the honesty in your posts, but I see it a different way. I think that they are shrinking the footprint in response to what happened last time. They saw that they were called racist even though they tried to incorporate every bit of the unincorporated areas. If you're going to be called racists either way, it might as well just encompass the area you have the most support. It will probably pass this time, and as people see it flourish, the neighboring areas will request SG annexation.




I think you are partially right.
I think they know where their supporters are from the first time, and large areas that didn't support them will be left out the next try.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27402 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:04 pm to
Socioeconomics. Cause you can't say it's strictly the race demographics.

Zachary is right at 50-50.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 4:08 pm
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