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re: LEAP results: EBR continues to decline
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:11 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:11 pm to StrongSafety
Because you can't parent the crappy kids. They largely have home life issues. Why is that the people in Shenandoah's problem?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:30 pm to StrongSafety
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How about fixing what you got instead of running?
This is rich. Do you have any idea how long and how many methods have been used to try to fix this shite? Until the externals change, many of which are mentioned in this thread, it's not fixable. Anyone with the resources would be crazy not to run, if they care at all about the future of their children. How about some people take a little personal responsibility and make just a meager attempt to fix themselves.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:41 pm to StrongSafety
quote:You can't fix what people don't want fixed... Parents all the time say school is important, yet when their child makes a bad grade or gets in trouble it is the teacher or schools fault.
How about fixing what you got instead of running?
Those that struggle it comes from home, as a teacher I can only do so much. When a student leaves my classroom if they're not getting help at home or home is degrading me or school in general their child is more likely to struggle. When they struggle the parent blames everyone but themself. They don't see the extra time given to their child, the easier material given to the child to build confidence, or the one on one work in the classroom.
Nothing can be fixed by people "saying" they want it fixed but their actions prove otherwise.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:55 pm to tduecen
Two teachers in a row saying practically the same thing. Not a coincidence. I've been teaching at the same public school for over twenty years. I'm watching what was once a wonderful, community school go down the shitter because of a deseg case. Can anyone show me one deseg case whose outcome has improved that district's schools? Yet, we keep doing the wrong thing over, and over, and over again.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:17 pm to doubleb
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LEAP results: EBR continues to decline
Why does Woodlawn High score so low?
What about Woodlawn Middle and SE Middle. How are their scores?
Students being bussed in from other parts of the parish
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:31 pm to I am GLORIOUS
Had no idea LEAP was still a thing.
Y'all remember the CAT (California Achievement Test)? GOAT
Y'all remember the CAT (California Achievement Test)? GOAT
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:33 pm to tduecen
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You can't fix what people don't want fixed... Parents all the time say school is important, yet when their child makes a bad grade or gets in trouble it is the teacher or schools fault.
Those that struggle it comes from home, as a teacher I can only do so much. When a student leaves my classroom if they're not getting help at home or home is degrading me or school in general their child is more likely to struggle. When they struggle the parent blames everyone but themself. They don't see the extra time given to their child, the easier material given to the child to build confidence, or the one on one work in the classroom.
Nothing can be fixed by people "saying" they want it fixed but their actions prove otherwise
My wife finally got a transfer in her district. For the last 7 years she has taught at Title 1 schools (kinder) which are basically poor schools. She taught 6 years at one that was 95% disadvantaged. Last year she was at a 60% one. The school she will be at is a brand new one in a high end neighborhood (we actually have neighborhood school in Texas, what a CRAZY concept). I would guess it will be less than 5% disadvantaged. I have a feeling the stress and problems she has dealt with for the past 7 year will magically go away.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:35 pm to tylercsbn9
More than likely, it is easier to work with kids who have the advantage of help at home. You can move faster, go into more detail, ask more from them, and actually plan less. You also have less issues in the classroom which makes management a non-issue because the kids want to learn or understand the value in it.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:35 pm to I am GLORIOUS
I understand that and more of a reason to have an ISD in south EBR.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:52 pm to StrongSafety
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How about fixing what you got instead of running?
That sounds very fuzzy and sweet, but you only get maybe the first 17-18 years to get it right with your own kids.
You can't expect people with means to use their child as some kind of SJW guinea pig and risk fricking them up for life in the name of 'fighting the good fight'.
In EBR, there are only a handful of decent public (maybe magnet) schools left. If you want better, than you have to pay for private school while still paying for the shite system your kids don't use, or you can move away from the lowest common denominator.
I attended public schools as a kid. They were getting bad then, and that was 30+ years ago. It's a damned war zone now. Third world shite. I swore I would never allow my future children to be exposed to the kind of ghetto crap (violence, vulgarity, theft, disrespect of authority) that I had to endure. It sucked, and it entrenched a whole lot of prejudice in me that I still have a hard time trying to fight off. There is nothing imaginary about what I saw with my own eyes every day. It is a reality that can't simply be ignored.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:58 pm to I am GLORIOUS
BUT HEY....we are better together!!!
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:03 pm to tke857
It should easily out score the lab school since it is a magnet program.
The very fact the differences between the two school score are so narrow should be a concern.
The very fact the differences between the two school score are so narrow should be a concern.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:05 pm to StrongSafety
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LEAP results: EBR continues to decline by StrongSafety
How about fixing what you got instead of running?
SS, the fixing process has been going on for 20 years. It is time for the "cut bait" process to begin.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:15 pm to Delacroix22
Excellent post...Spot On
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:20 pm to StrongSafety
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How about fixing what you got instead of running?
Too late Bro. Whitey has left the Parish, or at least the EBRP public system. And now we just bitch about it.
signed, Baker High grad
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:36 pm to LSURussian
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Zachary was the highest rated district.
And Baker is one of the lowest. I wonder what the difference is that causes that....???
Baker and Zachary had very similar populations. Lots of blue collar plant workers, white and black, few private options other than Redemptorist. In 1982 Scotlandville High was closed, and half those kids went to Baker, the other half went to Glen Oaks/Belaire/elsewhere. Central and Zachary were too far to bus them, so those schools stayed with local kids. The white exodus began from Baker, and now all my classmates live in Central, Zachary and BR or elsewhere, not Baker. Zachary retained its local students with interested local parents and support, and now are the top district in the State.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:38 pm to doubleb
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I understand that and more of a reason to have an ISD in south EBR.
I would venture to say it can be fixed right now by going to neighborhood schools without having to have a separate ISD. You would think they would just say frick it and give it a shot. What do they have to lose?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:48 pm to tduecen
Well stated tduecen.
Here are my reasons for failure in BR besides the obvious ones...
A) You make kids who live damn near the Miss River Bridge attend a school like Tara or Broadmoor. Look at Tara's neighborhood. Houses that cost between 150-300 K. Those kids bus there and they feel out of place. They'll have ZERO pride for that school. The zoning issues are fricked. The kids who act out and make F's and don't care are the ones who live an hour busride away (after multiple stops).
B) Too many teachers who are there for pay and vacation...not enough GREAT educators. There are more and more "aids" and "special ed teachers" who really have no credentials to be such.
C) Horeshit lunch programs. Kids are eating the eqivalency to Angola inmates. Crappy service...crappy choices. Pizza and a side of corn? Also, look at what Dunham and St. Joe/Catholic get to eat. The FEDS cannot out do that? Give the damn kids a salad bar and take away Big Texas honeybuns.
D) Incompetency from the central school board office. Did the ones who got rejected by the DMV end up there?
Public school needs to be reinvented. I do not know how to do that, but it's what is needed.
And stop re-zoning kids. Kids start at Belaire and then go to Tara and end up at Glen Oaks.
Here are my reasons for failure in BR besides the obvious ones...
A) You make kids who live damn near the Miss River Bridge attend a school like Tara or Broadmoor. Look at Tara's neighborhood. Houses that cost between 150-300 K. Those kids bus there and they feel out of place. They'll have ZERO pride for that school. The zoning issues are fricked. The kids who act out and make F's and don't care are the ones who live an hour busride away (after multiple stops).
B) Too many teachers who are there for pay and vacation...not enough GREAT educators. There are more and more "aids" and "special ed teachers" who really have no credentials to be such.
C) Horeshit lunch programs. Kids are eating the eqivalency to Angola inmates. Crappy service...crappy choices. Pizza and a side of corn? Also, look at what Dunham and St. Joe/Catholic get to eat. The FEDS cannot out do that? Give the damn kids a salad bar and take away Big Texas honeybuns.
D) Incompetency from the central school board office. Did the ones who got rejected by the DMV end up there?
Public school needs to be reinvented. I do not know how to do that, but it's what is needed.
And stop re-zoning kids. Kids start at Belaire and then go to Tara and end up at Glen Oaks.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:48 pm to Loubacca
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What do they have to lose?
$$$$$
They would effectively be defunded for violation of court orders.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:55 pm to PiscesTiger
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And stop re-zoning kids. Kids start at Belaire and then go to Tara and end up at Glen Oaks.
When schools either closed or went to RSD, the kids had to go somewhere.
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