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re: "Leaky" vaccines= worsening viruses
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:39 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:39 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:Absolutely yes as it relates to rate and probability
All I want to know right now is -- does an unvaccinated person transmit the virus "easier" than a vaccinated person?
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 8:40 am
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:40 am to Robin Masters
quote:
“Vaccine failure” means the vaccine failed to prevent the vaccinated.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:42 am to lsupride87
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Its the same fallacy as "viruses always mutate less deadly"
I "Always" love the always & never statements, because they "never" come back to bite the person that said that in the arse.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 8:43 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:43 am to Robin Masters
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Umm. No. “Vaccine failure” means the vaccine failed to prevent the vaccinated.
In the context of the linked study you are incorrect. I understand that your opinion of what a vaccine is supposed to do is different from the study.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:43 am to lsupride87
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People seem to think viruses replicate to avoid antibodies, instead of understanding replication is 100% random
A virus will mutate when given enough opportunities, no one is doubting that. If those opportunities are in vaccinated individuals (although they are less than a vaccinated individual), a mutation that is “invisible” to the antibodies is possible, no? That mutation can become the dominant strain in the individual and pass it on to another individual…or is that just clearly not a possibility?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:43 am to Weekend Warrior79
Well even more likely would be wrong here
There is the same chance a virus mutates to a more deadly variant as a less deadly one. It’s completely random. However, deadly variants are less less likely to circulate so they die off quicker
There is the same chance a virus mutates to a more deadly variant as a less deadly one. It’s completely random. However, deadly variants are less less likely to circulate so they die off quicker
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:44 am to RealityTiger
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As are the wannabe "experts" who read shite online and deem themselves to have it all figured out.
Yes, this group pretty much covers everyone who utters a word about "The Truth About" COVID and /or vaccines.
They should STFU, make their own decision and resist the urge to climb up on that soap box to announce to the world how wonderful and smart they are. No one cares.
But that wont happen because too many little turds that never got enough attention early in life want to finally be right about something for once. Again, No one cares.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:47 am to Snipe
hey guys, Snipe really wants us to notice him and how much he totally doesn't care about the vaccines in this thread
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:48 am to Snipe
quote:I love irony
resist the urge to climb up on that soap box
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:49 am to heatom2
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Because the current variants were around before mass vaccinations occurred
Delta was detected, strangely enough, the same month the vaccines rolled out.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Delta was detected, strangely enough, the same month the vaccines rolled out.
In India?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:50 am to lsupride87
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Those professionals are complete idiots, and lack even a good high school education level in how viruses work Please, for all that is good in humanity, give me how a vaccine makes more virulent strains? Its absurd and simply throwing words out Nothing "makes" the virus mutate. Its simple, the more hosts and more viral replication that happens, the more mutations. That simple really. Even if a vaccine is only has 10% efficacy, that still helps in reducing replication which therefore helps in reducing mutations
Gene encoding with mRNA vaccines
China military scientist 2018
Genome editing with mRNA - pubmed
DNA and RNA based vaccines - nih.gov
Variant list through early 2023, PCR, Coronavirus Patents
Bill Gates
Not exactly covered in high school.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:51 am to Strannix
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Prepare to listen to the lamentations of the jabbers
It is pretty obvious that the anti-vaxxers on this site are the ones obsessed.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:54 am to Lestradamus
quote:Again what difference do you think it makes in this case if the person is vaccinated or not?
If those opportunities are in vaccinated individuals (although they are less than a vaccinated individual), a mutation that is “invisible” to the antibodies is possible, no?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:57 am to mouton
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anti-vaxxers
The minions carrying water for the propagandist. We're 9 months into this thing and idiots still using that term.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:What is your preferred term? Don't want to offend anyone.
We're 9 months into this thing and idiots still using that term.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 9:02 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:59 am to Billder
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Is the vaccination perfect, no. Does it protect better against hospitalizations, death, mutation, etc...the data says a resounding YES.
Most of the vaccine hesitant people I know agree that the vaccine is successful at what it was designed to do. They are hesitant due to unintended consequences. What are the long term effects?
Unfortunately most physicians answer this question by avoiding it. They quickly answer that the long term effects are simply not dying of Covid. As if the vaccine hesitant are unaware that unvaccinated persons were already surviving at a 99.x% clip.
Avoiding the question by reframing it to their own liking invites even more hesitancy. Why not simply say, I don't know?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:01 am to Willie Stroker
quote:You can ask that question about any medicine you put in your body though.
What are the long term effects?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
The minions carrying water for the propagandist.
what should we call the people the actively cheer for the vaccines to fail?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:02 am to Willie Stroker
Long term effects as it relates to viruses or vaccines have always meant something that presents itself a few weeks after presentation that then lasts into the long term
Only now did it mutate to mean something that doesn’t present itself at all for years and then BAM! just appears
Only now did it mutate to mean something that doesn’t present itself at all for years and then BAM! just appears
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